tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post23549609989818580..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: naplinski in parisGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-61059699219492482122013-08-27T02:19:44.562+02:002013-08-27T02:19:44.562+02:00That's a very fascinating intermezzo. I have s...That's a very fascinating intermezzo. I have seen his name before then, but only in the role of a Bishop. I should go and see his grave in Roskilde some day and see what it says on it.Troels-Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352302240715963641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-56650097135519673142013-08-26T22:32:57.541+02:002013-08-26T22:32:57.541+02:00http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus,_Duke_of_Hol...http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus,_Duke_of_Holstein<br /><br />He's an interesting character in Estonian history, often mocked in popular literature and dismissed by professional historians. I've been always fascinated by Old Livonia and the Order State, life just must have been so complicated and, well,just so different when compared to todays black and white simplicity. Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-50115890110375538342013-08-26T21:20:24.309+02:002013-08-26T21:20:24.309+02:00The King of Sweden started to call himself Grand P...The King of Sweden started to call himself Grand Prince of Finland in the 16th century (in English it's sometimes rendered as Grand Duke) and as far as I remember the arms date from the same time.<br /><br />No, I didn't know about the elected chiefs of the Celts. That's quite interesting. Also how the order state sort of kept kingship away. Who was King Magnus?Troels-Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352302240715963641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-20646647961587656512013-08-26T08:33:37.185+02:002013-08-26T08:33:37.185+02:00Where did Finland receive theirs? I know that Esto...Where did Finland receive theirs? I know that Estonian lions come from Estonia being Danish for a while,just like England. But Finns were never part of Denmark. <br /><br />It's interesting you mention kingdoms. Did you know that prior to Roman invasion of Britain, Brits had no kings. They were governed by elected elders, just like Estonians were before the Northern Crusades. It was a threat of this sort of magnitude that triggered the institution of kingship. Brits remained governed by the kings and queens to this day where as Estonians never really, well there was this king Magnus, arrived at this type of self governance. Even when we were an Order State and the head of state was an elected Order Master he would have always had a council of knights advising him. I think we never really had a situation in this country where one man takes the reigns and runs the whole show, well the run up to the Soviet invasion and subsequent occupation could be argued, but other than that not really.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-22515202325567125182013-08-26T04:15:41.970+02:002013-08-26T04:15:41.970+02:00Heraldically, lions are very much a kingdom thing,...Heraldically, lions are very much a kingdom thing, be it one or three. It's sort of standard equipment for a kingdom. Norway, Sweden (later: three crowns), Finland(!), Denmark, Scotland, England, Holland, Belgium, Czech Republic...<br /><br />Eagles are more of an empire thing. All states that considered themselvs successors to Ancient Rome used eagles: Germany, Austria-Hungary, Russia, Napoleonic France. Even the US.<br /><br />And Poland. Don't know why.Troels-Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352302240715963641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-36854965341352458392013-08-26T04:14:49.871+02:002013-08-26T04:14:49.871+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Troels-Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352302240715963641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-39117915651617711342013-08-25T20:55:47.384+02:002013-08-25T20:55:47.384+02:00Funny you mention the three lions. I once met this...Funny you mention the three lions. I once met this elderly Scottish woman and she asked me, Marko,what's the Estonian animal? I was like, I beg your pardon. And she was like,no no what's the animal on your coat of arms. I said it's three lions. And she was like, aww, my grandad always told me that the lion people are alright, the eagle ones are the ones you need to look out for. Don't know if this old Scottish hag was just mumbling away, but in my travels i noticed a fair amount of truth in it. Lion = trust, eagle = take your time. <br /><br /><br />Anyone to elaborate? Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.com