tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post1605081167883677938..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: the good englishGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-5962490448605899132008-06-17T02:09:00.000+03:002008-06-17T02:09:00.000+03:00I know. It's just that I've become so removed fro...I know. It's just that I've become so removed from the Esto scene. I see a white person and I do not sense danger until I am already in a hand-to-hand combat. And half of me is still laughing that this must be a joke. Until the crush my cheekbone or smth.<BR/><BR/>So pardon me for being extra pissed of at my own people. Had they been Russians I'd be proud of taking one for the flag. Now I say, fuckit. Such people do not deserve anything better. Let them be fleeced by their own government. I'll stand at the sidelines and chuckle bitterly.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-7780953431276266252008-06-16T22:19:00.000+03:002008-06-16T22:19:00.000+03:00hirnu-hrnx! ütles...And you know what kills me the...<I> hirnu-hrnx! ütles...<BR/>And you know what kills me the most? That these are Estonians doing it to Estonians. It's a fucking black-on-black crime Esto style!</I><BR/><BR/>It is a terrible thing to be beaten up by one of your own, but this kind of thing happens the world over. Go to any small economically depressed town in the USA or UK, and there is a likelihood of being assaulted by the local juvenile delinquent, just because they are bored and want some entertainment. Some people are simply bad, but don't let that stop you from returning, because the majority are good people.martintghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16840407742014556024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-70213812225575048982008-06-16T04:15:00.000+03:002008-06-16T04:15:00.000+03:00Here's a bit on the same theme from recent Ekspres...Here's a bit on the same theme from recent Ekspress. <BR/><BR/>And you know what kills me the most? That these are Estonians doing it to Estonians. It's a fucking black-on-black crime Esto style!<BR/><BR/>I can't believe it. Is this a free country? http://www.ekspress.ee/2008/06/12/eesti-uudised/3088-loomad-on-lahtiLPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-90541718041435080252008-06-16T03:06:00.000+03:002008-06-16T03:06:00.000+03:00Thanks. I knew that already. I've been keeping tr...Thanks. I knew that already. I've been keeping track on him as much as I can via the internet. Just to be sure, I'd like to see a similar official confirmation of his death though.<BR/><BR/>Then I could close his tab which I've been keeping open on his ass since 1995. I hope somebody else finished him off for me and I do not have to get wet. <BR/><BR/>Thanks though. If you got something else, please let me know.<BR/><BR/>He better be dead.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-11511854038084214132008-06-15T20:32:00.000+03:002008-06-15T20:32:00.000+03:00HH, here's one for you: http://www.riigiteataja.ee...HH, here's one for you: <BR/>http://www.riigiteataja.ee/ert/act.jsp?id=83328plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-73477197849391166302008-06-15T01:52:00.000+03:002008-06-15T01:52:00.000+03:00Hey, leave Malt alone. Malt Laal's English is good...Hey, leave Malt alone. Malt Laal's English is good enough to get himself all kinds of international medals and honours on a monthly basis by now. Don't ask me how, but he pulls it off. Somehow. I can't do it. Need to practice that lisp some more I guess. Nagu öeldakse, tee järgi või maksa kinni. I gotta pay.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-23481332633702019072008-06-14T22:56:00.000+03:002008-06-14T22:56:00.000+03:00Correct me if I'm wrong but Mart Laar's English so...Correct me if I'm wrong but Mart Laar's English sounds like this: "ai sink sätt siss is ö veri kuud sing" (I think that this is a very good thing)Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-17007806521433320702008-06-14T22:50:00.000+03:002008-06-14T22:50:00.000+03:00Mart is very expressive, but he makes the mistakes...Mart is very expressive, but he makes the mistakes all Estonians make. He carries Estonian grammar rules into English: <BR/><BR/>Correct English: The process <B>that</B> is going on is extremely important.<BR/><BR/>Esto English: The process <B>what</B> is going on is extremely important.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-91814261237967632892008-06-14T22:01:00.000+03:002008-06-14T22:01:00.000+03:00By the way, how good is Mart Laar`s English?By the way, how good is Mart Laar`s English?Eppppphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15198668905167508640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-15550487208051654792008-06-14T15:02:00.000+03:002008-06-14T15:02:00.000+03:00Oh, Im so sorry to hear about the demise of old In...Oh, Im so sorry to hear about the demise of old Ints... Do you know, how he passed on? Not through his own medicine, I hope.Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-42166737648922402562008-06-14T14:49:00.000+03:002008-06-14T14:49:00.000+03:00yeah, Rainer, that's how it was in the pre-bloggi...yeah, Rainer, that's how it was in the pre-blogging days back then. Then you had to confront your opponents in real life and there was often a strong physical aspect to claryifying misunderstandigs of all sorts. Now it is so more civilized. Clinical and sterile compared to those days. But yeah, they certainly did a swell job. I'd like to thank Mr. Indrek Aasna and his entire entourage staff for administering a much needed therapy to me at no cost. That brief session helped to clear my head from so many questions and make important decisions in my life. See, in 1995 I was seriously considering returning to live in Estonia ... Had I not met these fine gentlemen, my life would most likely turned out to tending to my big-big peenar at our family house. I'd probably be an owner of a used bemm and have a small circle of friends who'd drop by for the regular early morning Sarvik ... But look at me now. So, yah. A swell job it was. Too bad Indrek's dead now. Heard it the other day. That's life folks. That's life.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-76175345609747269612008-06-14T12:25:00.000+03:002008-06-14T12:25:00.000+03:00And yes, Kristopher, Paide IS much worse. The way ...And yes, Kristopher, Paide IS much worse. <BR/><BR/>The way people stare at you in the street: Who the f are you? What the f are you doing here? This is OUR f-ing town!!!Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-77197699315612261242008-06-14T12:18:00.000+03:002008-06-14T12:18:00.000+03:00hirnu-hernex:"I still call it home. I am an idiot....hirnu-hernex:<BR/><BR/>"I still call it home. I am an idiot."<BR/><BR/>Well, the dresspükstes kiilaspead did a swell job, then.<BR/><BR/>But mind you, not all of us get beaten up by caracters mentioned above in the Eesti Türapealinn. Besides, it is a price little too high for soaking in a Californian jaccuzi later on.Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-88622088914026730232008-06-14T11:29:00.000+03:002008-06-14T11:29:00.000+03:00Thanks for that HH. I knew HU was pretty cool but ...Thanks for that HH. I knew HU was pretty cool but didn't know she did social conscience music. I've never heard anything like that in Estonian -- topical songs that could be hits.<BR/><BR/>If you're from Türi, be thankful you're not from Paide next door, I would say, isn't it worse? Surely you must know that if you go more than 20 mi inland in California you can see some real grim examples of depressive redneck small towns?Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-80602021231089252292008-06-14T10:53:00.000+03:002008-06-14T10:53:00.000+03:00I think all relationships are tough in the end, re...I think all relationships are tough in the end, regardless of language, location, etc.<BR/><BR/>The real dynamite in all human relationships, between spouses, families, and siblings, is not language or location: it is money.<BR/><BR/>Income and real estate, it destroys relationships, because person X gave a loan to person Y that they didn't pay back; or person A got screwed in the will by some back room manipulation by person B; or person D went into a business partnership with his brother-in-law on his wife's advice and got scammed in the end.<BR/><BR/>In the end, the bitter end, it all comes down to stuff.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-73661104783791484092008-06-14T09:46:00.000+03:002008-06-14T09:46:00.000+03:00wv sky ütles...I just returned from Estonia where ...<I> wv sky ütles...<BR/>I just returned from Estonia where I learned that my long time Estonian friend (female) is getting married to a Czech. She doesn't speak a word of Czech and he doesn't speak a word of Estonian, so they communicate by way of English (broken as it may be). </I><BR/><BR/>Naivety and the view that it is greener on the other side of the fence tends to drive these things. But from my own experience (had been married to a Belgian girl), these unions are difficult in the end. Either you or your partner has to leave home to live in another country, exciting at first, but as the years pass, one soon starts missing their friends and family left behind.martintghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16840407742014556024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-19375117459360364042008-06-14T09:23:00.000+03:002008-06-14T09:23:00.000+03:00So there's an example of how English can bring peo...<I>So there's an example of how English can bring people together (although I'm not sure how the nuances will fare should they need to communicate feelings during rough times).</I><BR/><BR/>It helps to know both languages in case you can't get your point across. Even then, in stressful situations, bilingual relationships can be tough.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-61015000347209680592008-06-14T06:26:00.000+03:002008-06-14T06:26:00.000+03:00I just returned from Estonia where I learned that ...I just returned from Estonia where I learned that my long time Estonian friend (female) is getting married to a Czech. She doesn't speak a word of Czech and he doesn't speak a word of Estonian, so they communicate by way of English (broken as it may be). So there's an example of how English can bring people together (although I'm not sure how the nuances will fare should they need to communicate feelings during rough times).Wv Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161394944061192630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-70297902365349677702008-06-14T02:52:00.000+03:002008-06-14T02:52:00.000+03:00Better video yet http://www.meietv.ee/videos/HU_...Better video yet http://www.meietv.ee/videos/HU_Hannaliisa_Uusmaa_Depressiivsed_Eesti_vikelinnad.html<BR/><BR/>And these girls marry these guys. Unbelievable. <BR/><BR/>Dago has a good song about that on their Hiired Tuules CD.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-5982630824721228372008-06-14T02:34:00.000+03:002008-06-14T02:34:00.000+03:00Listen to the words, those of who understand. I a...Listen to the words, those of who understand. I am from Türi. This song is for me. This is why I do not go there anymore after getting my skull cracked by local dressipükstes kiilaspead in 1995. It is a very depressing experience to be Estonian. I am having trouble shaking it off. Last week sitting in a jaccuzi and watching the sun set into the Pasific in San Diego, I was crying inside. All this beautiful world and look how we live back at home. I still call it home. I am an idiot. Rigth puu. Help me here. I am an idiot. Listen to the song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTY1NB7VaXELPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-81863352539400520002008-06-14T00:44:00.000+03:002008-06-14T00:44:00.000+03:00We don't have a distinction between "comfortable" ...<I>We don't have a distinction between "comfortable" and "convenient".</I><BR/><BR/>There could be a lot more serious shortcomings to a language. For example the situation in (American) English is far more serious. How many different meanings of "fuck" are there? Swearing is a lot more important than the title of a propaganda movie to be honest. What kind of a blunt-minded nation can't think up words for swearing? That completely defies me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076822279861048442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-52814981387138105262008-06-13T22:33:00.000+03:002008-06-13T22:33:00.000+03:00It can be done, but only with fairly heavy use of ...It can be done, but only with fairly heavy use of "kurat". I'm not sure about "trumpet", but I think it is better to stress it more rather than less.<BR/><BR/>I have studied Estonian only for one year. Perhaps someone can improve. <BR/><BR/>BTW, I am not the Sven but the one who has commented before. <BR/><BR/>Aitab -- räägiks hoopis natuke Iraanist raisk. Ma ütlen teile ühte asja -- ärge pange pahaks. See, mis on Iraagi ja Süüria vahel, ei ole mingi armastussuhe, see on faking mugavuse kolmnurk. Vot. See kuradi Süüria on lausa trompetistiks muutunud, trompeteerides mingitel vana araabia rahvusmotiividel, tegelt on sellest ammu saanud mingi radikaalne saast. Tahab seda va araablaste värki müüa kohalikul turul, et teda võetaks tõsiselt. Suur rahvuslane -- on ta jee. Tegelt ajab Tehrani asja raisk. Noh, mis ta arvate, lillekesed, kuidas see telg siis lähiaastatel kujuneb?Bäckmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421369538698912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-39492116509765471892008-06-13T20:04:00.000+03:002008-06-13T20:04:00.000+03:00Did he say it impromptu on the spot while the came...Did he say it impromptu on the spot while the cameras were running, or did he have time to edit it in a supportive ambiance of his office in quiet and reflective solitude? <BR/><BR/>I'll pick up your challenge and try to put into Estonian. Not now. Still at work.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-22547804678132487102008-06-13T17:25:00.000+03:002008-06-13T17:25:00.000+03:00Sven Mikser has indeed undergone a near miraculous...Sven Mikser has indeed undergone a near miraculous transformation from geeky Kesknoor into an astute and articulate politician. Although he still looks a little geeky... But who cares. Not every politician has to be a soave sex animal like Sarko, right?<BR/>Go Sven!Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-41824741631674251182008-06-13T15:47:00.000+03:002008-06-13T15:47:00.000+03:00We don't have a distinction between "comfortable" ...<I>We don't have a distinction between "comfortable" and "convenient". That has always annoyed me.</I><BR/><BR/>comfortable - mugav, mõnus<BR/><BR/>convenient - sobiv, käepärane, mugavHanskenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02736200051140080540noreply@blogger.com