tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post115714157039028591..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: Peter the Not-So-GreatGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-73014506159760849722013-06-27T23:57:23.029+02:002013-06-27T23:57:23.029+02:00According to Voltaire, P. 38 of his biography of C...According to Voltaire, P. 38 of his biography of Charles XII, Peter the Great was appreciated in 1704 for laying his sword on the table at the city hall, insisting that his soldiers cease ravishing the conquered citizens of Narva. Voltaire writes that Peter personally pulled ravished women out of the murderous hands of his own soldiers. He wrote, "They yet show the table at the town house, where he laid his sword..."<br />Just a note as I'm reading the biography now and googling bits of information: that's how I found you now. Niaihhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182385766031778686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157278154028833012006-09-03T13:09:00.000+03:002006-09-03T13:09:00.000+03:00in latvia the monuments (particularly of peter the...in latvia the monuments (particularly of peter the great and someone called Barklajs de Tolli similarly related to the russian empire)were first erected but demounted and withdrawn subsiquently.<BR/>i hope Estonians succeed..actually it's really great that they are concerned with what is hapening in obscure mainly russian populated places like Narva.latvians probably wouldn't be concerned in theleast if something like this occurred in a town like Daugavpils, for instance (with Latvians about 10% of the population).they don't even consider it a town in Latvia..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157213225746050282006-09-02T19:07:00.000+03:002006-09-02T19:07:00.000+03:00The most debated monument in Germany is the Holoca...The most debated monument in Germany is the Holocaust-"Mahnfeld" in Berlin.<BR/>http://www.holocaust-mahnmal.de/<BR/>Near the Reichstag and Brandenburger Tor.Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157212331823070842006-09-02T18:52:00.000+03:002006-09-02T18:52:00.000+03:00Norwegians forgive me, Leiv Eriksson:http://www.fl...Norwegians forgive me, Leiv Eriksson:<BR/>http://www.flickr.com/photos/placbo/180785902/in/photostream/Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157211673346743802006-09-02T18:41:00.000+03:002006-09-02T18:41:00.000+03:00The original Kalevipoeg 100 years ago:http://www.f...The original Kalevipoeg 100 years ago:<BR/>http://www.flickr.com/photos/65817306@N00/66742509/in/set-1434280/Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157211389708717062006-09-02T18:36:00.000+03:002006-09-02T18:36:00.000+03:00Germany raised a lot of giant monuments during the...Germany raised a lot of giant monuments during the Wilhelm empire. Hermann or Arminius who defeated the Romans in the year 9:<BR/>http://www.hermannsdenkmal.de/<BR/>The sword is 7m long.<BR/>The French with Vercingetorix also cause of resistance against Rome:<BR/>http://www.cueni.ch/images/museum/alesiaxl.jpg<BR/>I guess the equivalent in Estonia is the Kalevipoeg monument. There was some project about Kalevipoeg recently? A new one?Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157210402064052282006-09-02T18:20:00.000+03:002006-09-02T18:20:00.000+03:00Monuments don't matter much actually. But talking ...Monuments don't matter much actually. But talking about them is always a good way to pass the time. Can any of you think of a real monument you remember from a country?<BR/><BR/>For Finland, I will alsways remember staggering past Mannerheim on his horse in Helsinki, but that's about it.<BR/><BR/>The monument that sticks out most prominently for me in Estonia is in Tartu. It is the memorial to Jaan Tõnisson, an Estonian leader who was killed by the Soviets. He looks quite austere and dignified, but his dates read "1868 - ?"<BR/>That's because nobody knows how he died. They think the NKVD shot him in Tallinn in 1941. You can read more about it here -<BR/><BR/>http://www.vm.ee/est/kat_29/3892.html<BR/><BR/>It's a very good monument.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157189943304632432006-09-02T12:39:00.000+03:002006-09-02T12:39:00.000+03:00Must be something in our beer that makes us Finns ...Must be something in our beer that makes us Finns a bit lethargic. We have all kinds of foreign kings and emperors standing all over the place and nobody notices them or gives a damn. My home town, Kotka, has even a park with a bust dedicated to dear comrade Lenin for crying out loud!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157184510599209672006-09-02T11:08:00.000+03:002006-09-02T11:08:00.000+03:00mina you are right. It's all there. It was just ir...mina you are right. It's all there. It was just irony to call for more monuments. But a big Gustav Adolphus would fit. Even my city in Germany was 10 years under Gustav Gustavson's rule, his son. But I don't think they liked him much here.Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157157529863538872006-09-02T03:38:00.000+03:002006-09-02T03:38:00.000+03:00Where are the monuments for the Germans? Baltic Ge...<I>Where are the monuments for the Germans? Baltic Germans. Knights and others.</I> <BR/><BR/>I'd pay to hear Ansip talk about that one. I can hear him now ...<BR/><BR/>"But the Germans killed our chieftain Lembitu, raped our women, forced us to put our verbs at the end our sentences..."Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157148078389681872006-09-02T01:01:00.000+03:002006-09-02T01:01:00.000+03:00I think a statue to Gustav Adolphus "the Great" is...I think a statue to Gustav Adolphus "the Great" is in order, since Estonia is once again part of greater Sweden...Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157147936066352802006-09-02T00:58:00.000+03:002006-09-02T00:58:00.000+03:00Come to Estonia and open your eyes. The land is fu...Come to Estonia and open your eyes. The land is full of them. From castles to coat of arms...Minahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04077816901574176875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1157143596960975562006-09-01T23:46:00.000+03:002006-09-01T23:46:00.000+03:00Where are the monuments for the Germans? Baltic Ge...Where are the monuments for the Germans? Baltic Germans. Knights and others. They were the reason why Estonia is connected to 'Europe'. Christianisation and so on. 'Old Europe', ähem.<BR/>Or Danish? Or Swedish? Or Polish?Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.com