tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post8907020217664155605..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: nii naljakasGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-52754188048768569402013-01-22T21:20:57.120+02:002013-01-22T21:20:57.120+02:00Any time. I just wanted to make this point too, th...Any time. I just wanted to make this point too, that I am not pushing some sort of agenda here. Guistino himself has brought the subject up once or twice. It just so happens that the words gay and Estonian get rarely used in the same sentence, unless of course it comes in a derogatory form from a Russian immigrant. The truth is that I myself have come across with people who know not much about Estonia and when the discussion arrives at gay issues I personally have been pointed finger at and said 'you guys need to back off a bit' and when I then reveal that I'm gay actually myself, then the reaction would be something like 'oh, at least you are safe here now' and I'm like 'what do you mean' and they would be like 'well, isn't it like in the rest of the Eastern Europe there' to which I would then say ' well, not really'. You can be Estonian, be gay and have lived a perfectly normal life. This is a very difficult point to make actually, since we do have a lot of openly homophobic individuals making headlines all across the world. And since this is Estonia related blog, I feel that I should make that point once in a while.<br /><br />Mind you, I was asked by a Scottish gay charity to write a column in their newsletter to share with their readers what it means to be foreign, gay and to live, study and work in Scotland. Unfortunately I was really busy at the time, but maybe I should still do it.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-4004169229967407302013-01-22T19:20:57.351+02:002013-01-22T19:20:57.351+02:00Thank you for the answer. The class is a good ref...Thank you for the answer. The class is a good reference point. As I've moved up in life, the air is different. It makes sense now. Very good explanation. <br /><br />I've a life long habit of dressing well, minding my looks and manners and with the certain group of people, it may have come accross as sending "signals".<br /><br />James Bond must be a very confusing character for some.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-72352802602043369742013-01-22T19:13:33.774+02:002013-01-22T19:13:33.774+02:00Obviously I can only speak of my experience, whic...Obviously I can only speak of my experience, which limits me to free Estonian Republic and the United Kingdom. I have no idea what it must have been like in Soviet Estonia or how it is in the States. I've been grabbed too by straight ladies in nightclubs etc, your average British lassie can really let their hands go on strangers, lol. But I know no harm was meant thus it might be annoying at time, I'm not bothered to be honest. If someone takes advance on you and you do not like it, just say no - no means no, in our culture.<br /><br />I think people might have been more confused in the past. If I can give out wrong signals to ladies, for sure some men can give out wrong signals to guys too. And there's always the chancers, aren't there. The people who think that they can 'turn' you, on both fronts. You must remember that its a two way street - gays on straights and straights on gays. Obviously we are talking about a small minority here. Nowadays, mainly thanks to the internet, globalization and interpersonal contacts between different communities, you tend to get less of those ackward situations. But hey, on a positive note at least you know exactly what your wife must feel like, all those dirty old men learning every single move she makes.<br /><br />In Britain I have also found its a lot to do with class also. The higher up you are in the foodchain the more at ease you are talking about, having a laugh about it. Its the working classes who can get touchy and aggressive about it, but then again their sole purpose throughout history has been to reproduce the workforce for the landlord - sex, pleasure and individualism has been a big no no. But that's changing too, so who knows, fifty years down the line probably nobody gives a shit anymore, gay, straight, whatever!Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-41080515312127135932013-01-22T16:27:48.974+02:002013-01-22T16:27:48.974+02:00If I need to clarify, this question was to you, Ma...If I need to clarify, this question was to you, Marko, our very own representative of the LGBT community.<br /><br />Although I am ironic most of the time, this question was not loaded.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-7451086226462479982013-01-22T16:23:33.390+02:002013-01-22T16:23:33.390+02:00Did it again ... iphone has terminally messed up m...Did it again ... iphone has terminally messed up my spelling chops<br /><br />:-(LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-82936150817829465792013-01-22T16:21:52.308+02:002013-01-22T16:21:52.308+02:00Never thought to bring this up with my friends in ...Never thought to bring this up with my friends in person and ask if they have ever experienced a a gay guy trying to put moves on them .. I am sure think they'd lie to me ... It is a touchy subject, you'll never get a man talk about it. Unless they are ... gay.<br /><br />So the question is, what's up with that? It happened to me when I was in my twenties twice and once in my thirties. I must have lost my looks by now or something, but now I just get attention just from the ladies. What's your take on this? Color me baffled. I never found an answer. I've just decided to take these misunderstangs as a form of compliment done in good faith. Used ot get angry, almost busted one guys face and he probably meant no harm.<br /><br />Does eny of this ring a bell?LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-28037714868989270132013-01-22T14:03:40.232+02:002013-01-22T14:03:40.232+02:00I suppose I have to read up about the era. There&#...I suppose I have to read up about the era. There's a lot of emotional stuff out there but not much fact based. Like, how did Rüütli regime treat political prisoners, were they harmed, who's accountable etc. I think most 20 somethings haven't got a clue what was really going on. I agree about Mets wife and feel really sorry for her, but I don't judge Rein either - maybe back then it was expected for gay men to form heterosexual relations to please the general public. Although on the individual and family level, nobody benefits from such arrengements, quite the opposite - its cruel and it can destroy peoples lives.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-50945674705237477362013-01-22T04:29:10.740+02:002013-01-22T04:29:10.740+02:00Behind the scenes lots people go laid I am sure .....Behind the scenes lots people go laid I am sure ... I was not there for all that. I was in the Russian Army when this was taking place in Estonia. No idea who tortured whom and how much. I just hated the whole scene (the entire communist block) so much that all I could think of was to leave, leave, leave ...<br /><br />Have not seen the documentary about Mets, but what little I have seen has convinced me that he'd very annoying person to hang out with ...<br /><br />Just the entire vibe he gives out ... is just ... aghrrrrrh. His poor wife looked clueless and intimidated by the entire strange ongoings ... Poor thing.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-42896217335115014712013-01-22T00:15:30.210+02:002013-01-22T00:15:30.210+02:00LPR, something has been playing my mind lately. A...LPR, something has been playing my mind lately. And you're couple of years older than me. I watched this documentary recently about that Rein Mets character. Who was he? I always imagined the Singing Revolution being about holding hands and singing songs on towns squares. But this guy said that the KGB tortured and sexually abused his boyfriend at the time. In the late 80's! Is he telling the truth and have these KGB guys brought to justice or did they just leave with the Red Army? Were people tortured in Estonia in the 80's for their political views, religious convictions and sexual orientation? Or was their sexual orientation used to get to them and were they using sexual violence to shut them up? What really happened behind the scenes during Singing Revolution? It just after this documentary I started to think how little do I actually know about that period in country's history.<br /><br />PS Hate the commie sickos more and more, as stuff resurfaces.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-7708588778903234962013-01-21T12:38:40.968+02:002013-01-21T12:38:40.968+02:00I don't really follow American politics, Briti...I don't really follow American politics, British can be tricky enough: ). Obama's attempt to end 'don't ask don't tell' summed it pretty much up to me and I just lost interest. But I suppose you have your hands full over there by opposing the gun laws. Its one of those 'holy cows', a bit like conscript army in Estonia - even whispering about a possible change will make some people lose their rag big time.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-49549119075211335212013-01-21T06:28:27.400+02:002013-01-21T06:28:27.400+02:00This guy was recommended, yes. There's much t...This guy was recommended, yes. There's much that makes sense he says and he stays humble throughout. Impressive. Also how he makes women orgasm without touching them. As I age, I wish to pick up that trick one day .... :-) Just in case.<br /><br />Ah, on guns ... did you see Pierce Morgan interviewing Alex Jones and whatshisface Shapiro on CNN? Unbelievable! <br /><br />(It's all on youtube too).<br /><br />I say use Patriot Act and lock up all the gun nuts in Quantanamo without trial. They are the repubs who wanted the the Patriot Act to begin with, so let them eat their own dog food now. That would be so funny. Lock them up for anti-Amrican activities. They say that they need guns to fend off tyranny. In this case, the American government. Lock them up and sit them right next to the Al Qaeda guys. :-)LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-33939523322975646012013-01-21T03:31:22.356+02:002013-01-21T03:31:22.356+02:00Don't worry about the typos, nobody does. I di...Don't worry about the typos, nobody does. I did follow it through, and I think he is spot on. Unconventional, but still. How do you find these sort of guys? Recommendations?<br /><br />I believe 60's are gonna make a full on come back. Not just the hair styles and fashion, but also the flower power thingy. Its happening as we speak.<br /><br />What to think of it? I think its great! Make love not war. I also think its very much in tune with the Estonian psyche - tree huggers, as we are. The only thing that made me wary though was the way he called outsiders 'sheeple', that gave it a bit of a cult feeling unfortunately. Don't put people down! Other than that, a great guy with some great ideas.<br /><br />Oh, stop making those gun comments. Most of us still reside in Europe and feel uncomfortable about the idea. We don't do guns around here. Keep it in the America. A free man can make a conceous decision not to carry arms, and that's what we have decided to do. The land of the free, eh?Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-82094661500751255462013-01-21T03:09:17.227+02:002013-01-21T03:09:17.227+02:00Oops, tyoes again. I live by autocorrect ... sorr...Oops, tyoes again. I live by autocorrect ... sorry. I should edit my burst outs more carefully. It is not my intention to make you read through garbage. I am a talker, not a writer ...LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-62625966742629402922013-01-21T03:07:20.376+02:002013-01-21T03:07:20.376+02:00Did you actually follow it and did it what Andrew ...Did you actually follow it and did it what Andrew Barnes is talking about, Marko?<br /><br />As for the "hippie stuff" ... well what can I say? ... my job is so dry and technocratic that if I did not seek the deeper meaning, understanign and meaning of our existence, I might as well put a gun to my mouth ... never mind that I make twice the salary of Andrus Unzip and his ilk back at "home" and live a life of envy of the thousands ...<br /><br />Andrew Barnes is hitting it dead on ... read and seek out more. That's all I say. Gay or not, energy is one.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-17233264842300448852013-01-21T00:56:33.050+02:002013-01-21T00:56:33.050+02:00Very interesting, LPR. Never thought you might be...Very interesting, LPR. Never thought you might be into hippie stuff. Although I must admit I myself live an alternative lifestyle, namely my partner being homeschooled thus sharing my life with someone not being brainwashed by institutionalised mainstream education. Its very liberating, mind you.<br /><br />In a way I find it odd, that so many highly educated straight Estonian womenfolk complaining about not being able to find their life partners from what they refer to as illiterate 'lumpen' type of Estonian men folk. Yet, when they end up with someone of foreign origin, they tend to be as under qualified as their Estonian counterparts. Double standards, me thinks. Actually all they want is something different, something exotic and unorthodox. But what they tend to fail to realize is the fact that there's plenty to go around in Estonia too, so long they will stand up against stereotypes and the class system.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-39583630853966276652013-01-14T07:35:01.406+02:002013-01-14T07:35:01.406+02:00Anyway, I thought I'd share this with you, dea...Anyway, I thought I'd share this with you, dear friends ...<br /><br />Listening this will be worth your time, trust me ...<br /><br /><br />http://audiofarm.org/audiofiles/19188LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-10962668545256296992013-01-12T22:00:57.772+02:002013-01-12T22:00:57.772+02:00People just enjoy shouting at each other. For som...People just enjoy shouting at each other. For some it is an alternative for sex life.<br /><br />This day and age, we have plenty of food, not so much for sex ... so what is the next best thing to do? <br /><br />And here we are.<br /><br />I really do get my rocks off goning to republican web sites and driving these gun nuts up the wall. My kink is to watch them them wallow and howl.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-77022613637893409532013-01-12T15:57:48.306+02:002013-01-12T15:57:48.306+02:00I guess I have failed here to make my point. I nev...I guess I have failed here to make my point. I never said that I want to join this organization. I don't have any antipathy for it. Instead, I was using the situation with the organization to highlight a cultural difference. I come across the same attitude in education. There is an old fashioned ideal of what education is, and yet I wonder, in today's world, what are all of these traditions good for? Bill Bryson wrote similarly about the elite universities in the UK. Congratulations. You've mastered Latin. Now what. <br /><br />Another aspect is the incestuousness of Estonian society. That's what the joke about drinking and sleeping was about. Small countries are notorious for this. Think of Iceland's David Oddson -- mayor of Reykjavik from 1982 to 1991, prime minister of Iceland from 1991 to 2004, foreign minister in 2004 and 2005, president of the Central Bank until 2009, and since then, editor of on of the largest daily newspapers. <br /><br />These are just ideas for discussion. But you can see here how fragile human communication really is.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-90707063853448910482013-01-12T02:49:49.033+02:002013-01-12T02:49:49.033+02:00the Estonian Writers Union, right... why would the...the Estonian Writers Union, right... why would they want to have successful writers part of they club and share this little money they get from the state budget? That's what the Writers Union is all about after all, hand out taxpayers money to their members so they wouldn't need to starve.<br /> And they call it 'Art' what they do. In case you didn't know, 'Art', its something that's not suppose to sell. And that's why they need state's support. So why would they want to have you eating off their table, and why would you want to be part of it? It doesn't make sense...TMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12192098122045876085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-73456092307283535652013-01-11T22:35:25.795+02:002013-01-11T22:35:25.795+02:00What I don't get, is what Me is so bitter abou...What I don't get, is what Me is so bitter about. There are people in Estonian Literary Community whose's books are downright bad. So bad, I read 30 pages and had to stop and stare and escape. Ok, maybe those My Estona books are not the greatest novels ever, but they are readable, funny and way, WAY better than some people in Estonian Literary Community, who write youg adult novels, have written.väga väga nainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13091250497403818537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-45741664224178605882013-01-11T21:27:42.888+02:002013-01-11T21:27:42.888+02:00Yes, Giustino needs to learn full out "tuima ...Yes, Giustino needs to learn full out "tuima panema" Ansip-style.<br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-28485328925800109612013-01-11T20:27:40.702+02:002013-01-11T20:27:40.702+02:00Me, I'm more of a fan of The Stand than of Pet...Me, I'm more of a fan of The Stand than of Pet Sematary (not Cemetary -- go check), but again to each his own.<br /><br />You haven't been confused with anybody. You are who you are -- someone who claims s/he has other things to do yet cannot leave. It's as if Giustino's work attracted you so much, you just can't stop yourself.<br /><br />Look: you've delivered your message. It has already been rejected by everyone here. What else is left for you to do? Don't you have books to read, essays to write, something productive to do with your time rather than spend it on us? Take your own advice: you've said more than once that you were leaving. And go make some literature.Asehpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15848623582152684860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-58928999114917176332013-01-11T19:37:46.775+02:002013-01-11T19:37:46.775+02:00Giuostino, we dont explain ourselves in Estonia. E...Giuostino, we dont explain ourselves in Estonia. Especially if you havent done anything wrong, and you havent. In Estonia do what the Estonians do - grow a bit of a stiff upper lip. Me is like Christine, in a way - they've got it all figured out in their heads, no matter what you say or do is going to change that. Try to change things you can instead. Put yourself more out there. Gain more support from likeminded people, and soon enough whiners will have to swallow it up, as nobody wants to be an outsider, really.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-3468714302023430162013-01-11T18:51:25.624+02:002013-01-11T18:51:25.624+02:00Now she went all passive-aggressive on us.
Aw.
...Now she went all passive-aggressive on us. <br /><br />Aw.<br /><br />Don't do that, "Me"! <br /><br />(Snickering)LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-71903801354427795792013-01-11T18:03:01.465+02:002013-01-11T18:03:01.465+02:00Not biting... sorry.
Not biting... sorry.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com