tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post8519548106168619438..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: Eesti NimedGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-55682279193580270192014-07-06T00:36:35.425+02:002014-07-06T00:36:35.425+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12876921047553245584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-83649820354664689672007-08-07T08:06:00.000+03:002007-08-07T08:06:00.000+03:00We named our daughter Marta too, after husbands gr...<I>We named our daughter Marta too, after husbands grandgrandmother. And I was thinking of keeping Margaret for the future. So you are making me a copycat now ;)</I><BR/><BR/>Ah, but we are copycats too. I think the name 'Marta' came up when we were on Hiiumaa. I saw it on a tombstone and I thought it sounded good.<BR/><BR/><BR/>But, there were two 'Marta Maria's in our life at that time. Our niece had a classmate named 'Marta Marie' -- and my Spanish friend had a sister named 'Marta Maria.' So I guess we were influenced as well :)Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-24120823369922191802007-08-05T00:59:00.000+03:002007-08-05T00:59:00.000+03:00But you didn't mention names like Rahe, Tuule, Hel...But you didn't mention names like Rahe, Tuule, Helin, Krõõt, Vihm, Torm, Põvvat, Kõu, etc. Those have always felt like real Estonian names to me.<BR/>We named our daughter Marta too, after husbands grandgrandmother. And I was thinking of keeping Margaret for the future. So you are making me a copycat now ;)<BR/>And with the "imperative" name Aita-Leida recalls me also Anna-Minna (meaning: Give it a go!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-43940009800200959632007-07-31T17:41:00.000+03:002007-07-31T17:41:00.000+03:00By the way: to be addressed not by your surname bu...<I>By the way: to be addressed not by your surname but the name of your farm or homestead is not nordic, you will find it (in bloom, in some places) also in - for example - Austria and Bavaria.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't think I said that it was. I said that Anna is a popular name across the nordic countries. It is also the name of a popular brand of cookies:<BR/><BR/>http://www.annas.se/<BR/><BR/>I really like those cookies. It may have influenced the naming process.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-27228241165346723792007-07-31T15:05:00.000+03:002007-07-31T15:05:00.000+03:00One story without being able to give the details o...One story without being able to give the details or a valid source respectively:<BR/><BR/>In the countryside surnames sometimes were more or less dealt out to the Estonians by the German landlords who acted as some sort of local officials. The Estonian in question would be asked what surname he had in mind to bear, but there was no guarantee that his proposal was accepted and registered in the end. More often than not he was presented with a suitable suggestion.<BR/><BR/>There are anecdotes that some villagers pulled the baron´s leg by suggesting well-known aristocratic names as their future surnames.<BR/><BR/>By the way: to be addressed not by your surname but the name of your farm or homestead is not nordic, you will find it (in bloom, in some places) also in - for example - Austria and Bavaria.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11570222255588113253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-60255717231019055122007-07-30T17:38:00.000+03:002007-07-30T17:38:00.000+03:00Justin, if you have a boy, name him Peeter. His b...Justin, if you have a boy, name him Peeter. His buddys will know him as Petrooni Pets.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-60157542878554869282007-07-30T17:36:00.000+03:002007-07-30T17:36:00.000+03:00My uncle's name was Uku. Never thought it was a k...My uncle's name was Uku. Never thought it was a kiddie name.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-2544817948420874572007-07-30T11:08:00.000+03:002007-07-30T11:08:00.000+03:00I'd go for a unique Estonian name every time.Havin...<I>I'd go for a unique Estonian name every time.</I><BR/><BR/>Having an Italian name limits your options. If our last name was 'Smith' we could have lots of fun because 'Vahur Smith' sounds like something out of a Daniel Defoe novel.<BR/><BR/>But 'Priit Petrone' sounds tacky. Many Italians in America have tried to give their kids 'normal' names, but names like "Jordan Abbandando" have never sat right with me.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-14714602480510461252007-07-30T10:39:00.000+03:002007-07-30T10:39:00.000+03:00Wow! Martin, Oskar, Luisa and Marta? Sounds like b...Wow! Martin, Oskar, Luisa and Marta? Sounds like bloody "Pisuhänd".plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-31197308688375086912007-07-30T09:28:00.000+03:002007-07-30T09:28:00.000+03:00btw ... the only problem I can see with the name A...btw ... the only problem I can see with the name Anna (and other "imperative" names) is the meaning. If the possibility of making fun with it is a problem (I don't think it is).<BR/><BR/>The most famous among the "imperative" names is Aita-Leida Kuusepuu (meaning "Help me find the spruce tree" -- probably there is no such person but who knows). And there has been at least one Kallista ("give me a hug" ... although that's supposed to bee a Greek name or something with the stress on 2nd syllable -- so theoretically it has no meaning) -- author of a French-Estonian dictionary.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08534243745199287998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-70411649781272063722007-07-30T09:13:00.000+03:002007-07-30T09:13:00.000+03:00Tõnu is an Estonian version of Anton/Anthony/Tony ...Tõnu is an Estonian version of Anton/Anthony/Tony -- etymologically by no means an original name.<BR/><BR/>And names line Anna, Marta, Johannes and Karl are quite popular these days. Although by far the two most popular names in Estonia are Aleksandr and Anastasia. <BR/><BR/>(You can keep track of ecent changes <A HREF="http://www.siseministeerium.ee/121" REL="nofollow">here</A> [siseministeeriumi pressiteated].)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08534243745199287998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-69249673257580336222007-07-30T04:32:00.000+03:002007-07-30T04:32:00.000+03:00Tsaarinkylä<A HREF="http://www.visit-petersburg.com/index.php?path=index/fi/node/564/act/article/actId/2582" REL="nofollow"><BR/> Tsaarinkylä</A>Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1332874691836043762007-07-29T13:46:00.000+03:002007-07-29T13:46:00.000+03:00Estonian native names are a really cool way of get...Estonian native names are a really cool way of getting lots of attention in a company of foreigners. <BR/>I have a nice collection of very interesting pronunciations of my first name. Undoubtedly best comes American fella, who, after third unsuccessful try decided he will call me simply John.Wahurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861003012357572291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-28518160157100763382007-07-29T13:34:00.000+03:002007-07-29T13:34:00.000+03:00"Johannes on the other hand is an old German name...."Johannes on the other hand is an old German name... it is Juhan in Estonian, John in English and Ivan in Russian. So good patriotic Estonians should use the name Juhan not Johannes, Ivan or John."<BR/>-Some of these German names are so-to -say canonized here as they were used in the Estonian translation of the Bible. There is nothing to do, Johannes, Markus, Eliisabet, Anna, Marta, Saamuel, Jaakob etc have became biblical names now and timeless, and not German, not Hebrew, and not Russian, by the way.<BR/>As for Toits, Veiks and such: no parent has named his child officially Toits yet, (I hope!). These name forms are more like "official nikcname forms" for Toivos, Veikos etc.<BR/>As was Juku once the diminutive for Juhan, which was probably the diminutive for Johannes once... and now we have grown-up men whose name is officially Juku, so who knows, maybe soon mothers will be really naming their newborn babys "Toits"? <BR/>A second thought: is Juku-Kalle Raid REALLY grown-up? Would his behavior be different, if his name were officially Johannes-Karl Raid instead?sofiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08867216317257288391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-59663822904505070902007-07-28T22:18:00.000+03:002007-07-28T22:18:00.000+03:00ups, I repeated the word "interestingly" from your...ups, I repeated the word "interestingly" from your sentence. It was not intentional ))Juan Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997278614759180471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-21821875932442100802007-07-28T22:17:00.000+03:002007-07-28T22:17:00.000+03:00Interestingly, many Russians I have met have Germa...<EM>Interestingly, many Russians I have met have German surnames.</EM><BR/><BR/>Interestingly, many Russians with a German surnames have Jewish origins. It is the case with all those writers or filmmakers or thinkers like Eisenstein, Mandelstam, Ehrensburg, Grossman, Lotman. <BR/><BR/>I suppose Aleksei Miller has a Jewish background, which may make it more difficult for him to be a potential presidential candidate (actually he has nothing to do with politics as far as I know, and that is why he is where he is and not somewhere in Siberia).Juan Manuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997278614759180471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-27728824861215109202007-07-28T16:38:00.000+03:002007-07-28T16:38:00.000+03:00Congratulations on the new baby... and a request f...Congratulations on the new baby... and a request for help on a place name. <BR/><BR/>I'm writing something about St Pete and discovered that Tsarskoe Selo was originally a Finnish estate with a name that meant "the farmstead on a promentory." The text is Russian, so I'm trying to figure out how to write the Finnish name in Latin letters. Can anyone up there help? Does Saari-mois look right? Or Saari moys? Or something else? Does that in fact mean "farm on a hill"? <BR/><BR/>I was intrigued that Tsarskoe Selo (the tsar's village) was originally Sarskaya myza in Russian, so the change from Sarskaya to Tsarskoe was minor.<BR/><BR/>Thanks and sorry for butting in with an off-topic query!mabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03465265630186491227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-35645059013673263942007-07-28T12:03:00.000+03:002007-07-28T12:03:00.000+03:00besides Russian, anywaybesides Russian, anywayplasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-44099324005519601952007-07-28T12:02:00.000+03:002007-07-28T12:02:00.000+03:00I'd go for a unique Estonian name every time.After...<I>I'd go for a unique Estonian name every time.</I><BR/><BR/>After reading through ohspuu's linked text, I concluded that if I ever had a daughter, I would name her Elo-Lee. Sounds great in any language.plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-85633413298142923022007-07-28T09:44:00.000+03:002007-07-28T09:44:00.000+03:00Here's a link to some idiotic celebrity names. htt...Here's a link to some idiotic celebrity names. <BR/>http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article2130988.ece<BR/><BR/>Some are very nice, such as Gaia, but someone should tell the Cruises that Suri means "died" in Estonian :). If you can't be bothered to read the comments, then I'll say that the highlights include Rob Morrow naming his daughter Tu (yes, Tu Morrow). This is bordering on naming your daughters Külili and Selili. :)Kaisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829659090571215237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-83184692482740596462007-07-27T18:16:00.000+03:002007-07-27T18:16:00.000+03:00sorry for the typos. I have no excuse.sorry for the typos. I have no excuse.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-11407170122383268392007-07-27T18:14:00.000+03:002007-07-27T18:14:00.000+03:00Ahh, names. Right now I'm figthing with my wife r...Ahh, names. Right now I'm figthing with my wife right now trying to convince her that naming our son Viggo is not such a good idea. We have a month to go before it'll ciome down to a coin toss.<BR/><BR/>I do not want to sentence a man to a lifelong task of explaining his unusual name to Americans, Estonians ... especially Danes and to even to himself. It is enough to have my own name mangled beyond recognition and having to explain that I am not Indian or something. <BR/><BR/>It is a lot of responsibility to give somebody a name.<BR/><BR/>Anna is nice a neutral. I bet that name satisfied the italian half of the tribe as well. No pffts coming from there I guess.<BR/><BR/>Congrats.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-41447802470678989902007-07-27T18:02:00.000+03:002007-07-27T18:02:00.000+03:00So, lets see, what will be Estonia in 20 years. At...<I>So, lets see, what will be Estonia in 20 years. At least now there is so much hostility for everything Russian, that i would not risk with my kids names.</I><BR/><BR/>That's mostly a myth in my opinion. I ain't feeling the hate. People usually judge you by who you are, not from what nationality you are.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076822279861048442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-7641120536404353692007-07-27T17:04:00.000+03:002007-07-27T17:04:00.000+03:00Yeah, lets don't forget that it was 1991-1992, whe...<I>Yeah, lets don't forget that it was 1991-1992, when everybody suddenly became extremely nationalistic, but still...</I><BR/><BR/>They did it my school. My friend 'Sanket' (Indian) was called 'Spank it'. Petrica (Romanian) was embarrased too often by being called 'Patricia' that he went by 'Pete' to his teachers.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-17541703470855416522007-07-27T16:36:00.000+03:002007-07-27T16:36:00.000+03:00In the 1930s, approximately 210,000 Estonians chos...<I>In the 1930s, approximately 210,000 Estonians chose new names for themselves. They settled on cute animals, like Orav (squirrel) and Jänes (bunny), or sturdy trees like Tamm (oak) or Mänd (pine). </I><BR/><BR/>That is also the Latvian tradition, or should I say Baltic, or even Nordic?... :-)<BR/><BR/>For what it's worth, we named our little Latvian girl Marianne Marta. Marianna was my wife's grandmother's name and my wife simply loved the name Marta.<BR/><BR/>PierrePierrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09648921305361486341noreply@blogger.com