tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post5732929350564540421..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: phew!Giustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-87408245480768814042008-11-12T15:24:00.000+02:002008-11-12T15:24:00.000+02:00Is the request for "spishki yest" a prelude to a m...Is the request for "spishki yest" a prelude to a mugging? How can there be so many absent-minded Russian-speakers who forget their lighter or matches? <BR/><BR/>You would think the Estonian passport had a matchbook on the back cover -- I don't remember the last time I was asked "tuld on".Bäckmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421369538698912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-75590641600684002942008-11-11T16:56:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:56:00.000+02:00Although on street level I'd rather avoid Estonian...Although on street level I'd rather avoid Estonian goons. When a menacing looking Russian is already speaking to you, he probably asks for direction or smoke (or a quick call on your mobile phone, if you're really dumb), ie if he wanted a fight, he would already started it. On the other hand, talking back to an Estonian jõmm is almost always a bad idea.plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-12178583469069853452008-11-11T16:48:00.000+02:002008-11-11T16:48:00.000+02:00Sadly, wv sky has a point there. In 01.01.2007. we...Sadly, wv sky has a point there. In 01.01.2007. we had 3265 inmates and 1045 persons arrested.<BR/>Of those 3265 guys in prison, there were 1464 Estonians, 1583 Russians, )and 55 Ukrainians, 45 Belorussians, 23 Romas, 18 Finns etc, even an odd guy from Korea.) 1080 of inmates were stateless, 177 were foreing nationals.<BR/>http://www.vangla.ee/orb.aw/class=file/action=preview/id=31494/Statistika2007.pdfplasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78629611543695490402008-11-10T22:54:00.000+02:002008-11-10T22:54:00.000+02:00Street crime? I've never thought of Russians being...Street crime? I've never thought of Russians being more criminal than Estonians. I'm sure there are parts of Kopli that you wouldn't wander around at night in, and they happen to be more Russian, but it's a stretch.<BR/><BR/>The only times I came close to being mugged, I was threatened in Estonian. Thug sorts of people. No doubt mixed-breed, hard to tell.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-69989895734520221242008-11-09T21:26:00.000+02:002008-11-09T21:26:00.000+02:00Just to clarify my statement:Americas Blacks are E...Just to clarify my statement:<BR/><I>Americas Blacks are Estonians Russians.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm saying that America has some of the same issues with Blacks (especially crime) that Estonians have with the Russians. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me.Wv Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161394944061192630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-9541985325747202562008-11-08T10:04:00.000+02:002008-11-08T10:04:00.000+02:00«Obama supproters: first black, younger, change, h...«Obama supproters: first black, younger, change, hope»<BR/><BR/>That sounds awfully close to what Russia was chanting when they elected a certain Vladimir Putin.<BR/><BR/>«One thing Estonians may not realize that that Americas Blacks are Estonians Russians.»<BR/><BR/>Yes indeed. Soviets stole people from their home in every corner of USSR to relocate them and treated them as disposable slave labor. In Estonia's case, there was the additional goal of trumping nationalistic dissent by diluting the ethnic fabric of Estonia.Martin-Érichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00394315280689943764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-76122792337392107492008-11-08T00:44:00.000+02:002008-11-08T00:44:00.000+02:00if Obama is targeted, it will be in what will be a...<I>if Obama is targeted, it will be in what will be another coup (though of course it will not be called that) and the military and industrial complex will be behind it, not any KKKsmen.</I><BR/><BR/>People give way too much credit to the Clan. It'spretty much a non event these days. No, the person who takes him out will be just your average "nut".<BR/><BR/><I>But WV Sky, don't you think American slavery is rather unique as far as its cruelty and purity was concerned? </I><BR/><BR/>Nothing unique about it. Not nearly as cruel as feeding the Christians to the lions for instance. How about Soviet slave labor camps? Millions died. In America, slaves cost BIG money. They werent "FREE" like the Soviets were. This means that the slave owner had quit an investment. Many slaves were treated quite well, while others were treated cruelly. But we certainly didn't have the market cornered on cruelty to slaves. Not that it's germane to this issue, but remember that most slaves were sold by the winners of warring tribes to the Dutch (at first). Also remember that 360,000 Union men died to free the slaves. That is far and away more than the number of slaves who ever died. (Probably by 355,000 or more)Wv Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161394944061192630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-66143525068718947282008-11-07T23:11:00.000+02:002008-11-07T23:11:00.000+02:00Russians are already calling these elections "unfa...Russians are already calling these elections "unfair" and accuse everbody in having double standards.Juhanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10501093858185581061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-88637904758352346182008-11-07T18:10:00.000+02:002008-11-07T18:10:00.000+02:00Yes, most blacks voted for Obama. But most blacks...Yes, most blacks voted for Obama. <BR/><BR/>But most blacks voted for Democrats in 2006. And considering the coded racist policies of the Republicans, any black would be crazy to vote for McCain. <BR/><BR/>The other point that tends to be missed is the blacks only account for 13% of the total population. <BR/><BR/>Alot of other voters are needed to lift a candidate into the presidency.<BR/><BR/>Now that Obama is there, let's see how he governs.Ly Kessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05934641232058610364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-77305534722759375492008-11-07T17:28:00.000+02:002008-11-07T17:28:00.000+02:00So far the plotters have been easy to spot - hard ...So far the plotters have been easy to spot - hard to blend in wearing white tuxedoes and top hats.<BR/><BR/>Was this in Onion or in mainstream news?LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-24107272581122448362008-11-07T17:05:00.000+02:002008-11-07T17:05:00.000+02:00(That was further to Plasma Jack.(But WV Sky, don'...(That was further to Plasma Jack.(<BR/><BR/>But WV Sky, don't you think American slavery is rather unique as far as its cruelty and purity was concerned? <BR/><BR/>And since you opened the Pandora's box, if Obama is targeted, it will be in what will be another coup (though of course it will not be called that) and the military and industrial complex will be behind it, not any KKKsmen.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-54347753381464136312008-11-07T16:51:00.000+02:002008-11-07T16:51:00.000+02:00THe Estonian narrative is like having an American ...THe Estonian narrative is like having an American Indian become president (or a Yupiq or Inuk become vice-president, heh). <BR/><BR/>Now that would be a real occasion for us Americans to pat ourselves on the back in front of the rest of the world.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-47813363690841380632008-11-07T16:16:00.000+02:002008-11-07T16:16:00.000+02:00plasma-jack, always remember one thing: Damned nea...plasma-jack, always remember one thing: Damned near EVERYONE was a slave to someone else in the course of man-kinds history. It was a very "normal" thing to do. Later, we called these slaves "indentured" workers at worst... or peasants at best. They were still slaves with somebody in control of their entire lives. That's not an excuse for the facts, it's just A fact.Wv Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161394944061192630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-91597560619221158572008-11-07T15:01:00.000+02:002008-11-07T15:01:00.000+02:00Regarding whether blacks voted for Obama because h...Regarding whether blacks voted for Obama because he was black: many surely did. But I like to think blacks recognized Obama had a hell of a lot going for him other than his skin color.<BR/><BR/>Chisholm ran in '72 and wasn't a contender. Jackson ran in '84 and '88, and got something like 500 and then 1200 delegates, respectively. Everybody said the US wasn't ready for a black president. That was only 20 years ago. I kind of think that had there been a better black candidate than Jackson (obviously not my favorite), he might have garnered more than 1200 delegates. Maybe not.<BR/><BR/>But what's changed over those 20 years? (The arrival/success of Colin Powell and Condi Rice?) Have we matured enough that we're now magically ready for a black man? I'm not so sure. I prefer to think that Obama was a hell of a good candidate who also happened to be black.<BR/><BR/>Does that make sense?Vellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13704603509680600150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-48941158344056435742008-11-07T13:37:00.000+02:002008-11-07T13:37:00.000+02:00I hoped he would win and so he did, great! I don´t...I hoped he would win and so he did, great! I don´t discuss much politics with (local)friends and relatives but as much as I have, most indeed expressed their support to McCain, some based on their believes and some sadly because of race also. It has made me sad actually to see how much racism there is around us.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04935901565998236413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-16009198322317900592008-11-07T11:40:00.000+02:002008-11-07T11:40:00.000+02:00Close to my opinion why Obama is good for Europe. ...Close to my opinion why Obama is good for Europe. It is this post of an american expat in Germany:<BR/><A HREF="http://andrewhammel.typepad.com/german_joys/2008/11/jovanotti-un-raggio-di-sole.html" REL="nofollow">Andrew Hammel</A>.<BR/>About why change matters.Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-25377400016369244022008-11-07T08:52:00.000+02:002008-11-07T08:52:00.000+02:00Btw, few centuries back the Huron had a functionin...Btw, few centuries back the Huron had a functioning grass-root democracy and a social welfare system that partly inspired the French enlightenment and revolutionary ideals. Too bad they are not around consulting us now when things like these have become trendy.plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-57212365421874805752008-11-07T08:47:00.000+02:002008-11-07T08:47:00.000+02:00*IMported slaves, of course.*IMported slaves, of course.plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-4009818729280973992008-11-07T08:34:00.000+02:002008-11-07T08:34:00.000+02:00Americas Blacks are Estonians Russians. We have th...<I>Americas Blacks are Estonians Russians. We have the same issues that you do. (And I think you know what I'm talking about).</I><BR/><BR/>No way. We never exported slaves (after the 13th century, at least) and our ancestors didn't steal anybody's land. Estonians are the natives that somehow managed to avoid being wiped out in our own land. I don't want to sound like a dick (can't help it), but our narrative is much cooler.plasma-jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485039580759398780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-15660149353638471032008-11-07T04:04:00.000+02:002008-11-07T04:04:00.000+02:00It's a dirty little secret in America that Blacks ...It's a dirty little secret in America that Blacks are almost as racist against each other over the color of their skin, as whites are perceived to be against the Blacks. I grew up in a Black neighborhood and worked with Blacks all my life. One of the things I found really funny was that most of the Blacks I knew often made derogatory comments about other Blacks depending on their color. One of their favorite comments was "look at that High Yellow!". (A very light skinned Black) I have a friend from Kenya. He has been here for 25 years and is a businessman. He has run for many small political offices in his neighborhood, which is mostly Black, and has never been... and never WILL be elected to anything. Why? Several reasons: He's educated and sounds like it. He has a "slight" accent and it's not Ebonics from "da hood". He doesn't believe in government handouts... only hard work. Naturally, the local American Blacks can have non of that. <BR/><BR/>An interview was made on the streets of New York City: Blacks were approached and asked questions about Obama. But here's the funny thing: The interviewer reversed the policies of McCain with Obama, so the questions came out like this: "Do you approve of Obama's anti abortion stand?" ALL of the people interviewed agreed with McCAINS policies! What this told you is that they were voting for a Black, and not policies. So yes, between the many contacts I still have with Blacks it's very apparent to me that they voted for a Black, and for that reason alone. I'm sure that many Whites voted for McCain because he was White (at least in this case).<BR/><BR/>One thing Estonians may not realize that that Americas Blacks are Estonians Russians. We have the same issues that you do. (And I think you know what I'm talking about).<BR/><BR/>Anyway, this Obama Presidency will be very interesting. (Another dirty little secret in America are the bets taken as to when he'll be assassinated). Fact is... I'm not sure a a McCain Presidency would have been any better, but I still would have loved to have had other choices besides either one of these guys.Wv Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13161394944061192630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-61317125461602812262008-11-06T20:58:00.000+02:002008-11-06T20:58:00.000+02:00The other day my black co-workers were talking abo...The other day my black co-workers were talking about Obama barely-barely passing the "Brown Bag Test". <BR/><BR/>I never knew they had such a test.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-18201567789629716602008-11-06T20:45:00.000+02:002008-11-06T20:45:00.000+02:00Would Alan Keyes get many black votes if he were r...Would Alan Keyes get many black votes if he were running against a white Democrat?<BR/><BR/>Demographics were a big issue in Obama's case, but not the race of the candidate.<BR/><BR/>In any case, it shouldn't be viewed as an accomplishment that a black person won. Just long overdue. I wonder how Native Americans voted.<BR/><BR/>I'm just glad that he's African-American enough for most people despite not having West African/slave roots.<BR/><BR/>To me the story is that his origins are so far away from wealth and power -- inspiring.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-73019613534748111332008-11-06T20:44:00.000+02:002008-11-06T20:44:00.000+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-84993584954983283052008-11-06T20:02:00.000+02:002008-11-06T20:02:00.000+02:00To notsu: what are you not getting? Granted, major...To notsu: what are you not getting? Granted, majority of blacks vote democratic anyhow but in this case it really seemed to be voting to get "one of them" into the White House. We stood in line and there were tons of blacks saying how this is the first time they have voted (!!!!) and they are voting for Obama. New voter turnout amongs blacks was huge. Highly doubt it was because of his politics.<BR/><BR/>Lot of people claimed that election was racist i.e. lot of people would not vote for Obama because his black. Fine, though I think that is a small minority of older generation. But how many voted for Obama BECAUSE he is black?Puhvis Kukkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03140201227747507134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-54159881206831870302008-11-06T19:33:00.000+02:002008-11-06T19:33:00.000+02:00I have actually been reading Dr. Kissinger's book....I have actually been reading Dr. Kissinger's book. I would be interested in his interpretation of the German leadership at the moment. Because, technically, as NATO members, there is a German-Polish military alliance. At the same time, there is intense German-Russian economic engagement. <BR/><BR/>This is not necessarily a bad set-up. Russia hypothetically would not threaten Poland and the Baltics for fear of irritating an important trading partner, Germany. Poland should not threaten German-Russian economic interests for fear of estranging Russia from this balance of power.<BR/><BR/>Hypothetically, then, Nord Stream, or something like it, should be built, BUT the Germans should welcome a radar site in southern Germany, not the Czech Republic, and a missile defense site in eatern Germany or western Poland. I know, sounds crazy, right.<BR/><BR/>I believe that as long as there is a deterrent, there is unlikely to be war in Europe. It was the lack of real deterrents that allowed Hitler to destroy the Versailles treaty provisions. <BR/><BR/>It was the lack of a real commitment from the Anglo-French alliance to safeguard Poland's independence that allowed Hitler and Stalin to carve up eastern Europe.<BR/><BR/>If they can get away with it; they'll try it. If they can't get away with it without risking their political lives, power, and personal finances, they won't.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.com