tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post5267037803683489321..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: On väga väga tore päev!Giustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-90192748808411447902007-03-07T08:19:00.000+02:002007-03-07T08:19:00.000+02:00And yes, it seems like Russian media is reporting ...<I>And yes, it seems like Russian media is reporting the result as a "Fascist victory". That the 100 000+ Russians voting saw no need for parties a la Konstitutsioonierakond either doesn't seem to mean a thing.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm confused by their logic. They say that "20 percent of Estonian residents can't vote" in parliamentary elections. But every time I run the numbers, it tells me that only 9.3 percent of residents lack citizenship.<BR/><BR/>7 percent have opted for Russian citizenship - which means that in 2008 they'll be lining up in Narva to cast their vote for whomever Putin has selected as his successor. They don't count because they're Russian citizens. I live in Estonia and I am an American citizen. I don't get to vote in parliamentary elections either.<BR/><BR/>So we're talking about 9 percent of the population. Even if they were all granted suffrage, it would probably just create more voters for Keskerakond, because these voters largely reside in KESK-friendly districts.<BR/><BR/>I don't see how Zarenkov's marginal Constitution Party would benefit. Would they get 2 percent of the vote? 3 percent? Even with 5 percent of the vote, with members in parliament, what would they honestly be able to accomplish?<BR/><BR/>The choice between Savisaar and Zarenkov is like an American lefty deciding whether or not to vite Democratic or Green. Most of them opt for the Democrats in the end, knowing that their vote "counts more."Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-75868807719314568122007-03-07T01:28:00.000+02:002007-03-07T01:28:00.000+02:00With metaphors already having been mentioned .. is...With metaphors already having been mentioned .. is it me, or is Mart Laar totally Mõmmi?<BR/><BR/>And yes, it seems like Russian media is reporting the result as a "Fascist victory". That the 100 000+ Russians voting saw no need for parties a la Konstitutsioonierakond either doesn't seem to mean a thing.space_mazehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761076198531074140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-90755428675495777192007-03-05T23:08:00.000+02:002007-03-05T23:08:00.000+02:00(some voters in Ida-Virumaa actually had asked if ...<I>(some voters in Ida-Virumaa actually had asked if they could vote for Savisaar and being denied the chance, because Savisaar ran in Tallinn, decided to not vote at all)</I><BR/><BR/>I have a big feeling the Russian propaganda machine was preparing for a Savisaar victory, whereby Lavrov could say that "healthy forces" had taken hold in Estonia and that "anti-Russian" parties had been rebuffed.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-18462372533432350242007-03-05T20:32:00.000+02:002007-03-05T20:32:00.000+02:00I like your Hunt Kriimsilm metaphore :)BTW shows a...I like your Hunt Kriimsilm metaphore :)<BR/>BTW shows also your good knowledge of Estonian TV-heritage :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-16619860513772157112007-03-05T15:28:00.000+02:002007-03-05T15:28:00.000+02:00The Greens did especially well considering they ha...The Greens did especially well considering they had no election ads. No ads in printed media nor in TV. Even the Christian Democrats had ads out and they only received 1,7% if I remember correctly, so that shows that green ideas truly have a base in Estonia.<BR/><BR/>As for Kesk and the Russian electorate, Keskerakond is widely portraited as the sole protector of Russians in Estonia. They are the ones that want to turn the country more east etc. Whether it's really true, or bullshitting the voters, beats me. Apart from that Savisaar is a charismatic person and by the way Russians in Russia love Putin, it's logical that those in Estonia would love the equivalent. The guy that doesn't bs about politics and stuffs but Gets It Done (tm). (some voters in Ida-Virumaa actually had asked if they could vote for Savisaar and being denied the chance, because Savisaar ran in Tallinn, decided to not vote at all)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17076822279861048442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-87888491768750479162007-03-05T15:11:00.000+02:002007-03-05T15:11:00.000+02:00Receiving around 5 % in the early days of the Germ...<I>Receiving around 5 % in the early days of the German 'DIE GRÜNEN' was like a shock in a running three party system. But with 6 parties scoring more than this in Estonia it has a lesser meaning, I guess.</I><BR/><BR/>They did well across the country too, and particularly well in urban areas. It was interesting that Keskerakond got 50-something percent of the vote in Ida-Virumaa. <BR/><BR/>Is that just because they have a better operation there? Or is the notion that it's the "Kremlin's favorite", and people just want to do as the Kremlin dictates? <BR/><BR/>I don't see why the Social Democrat message doesn't resonate especially well there. Maybe they should spend more money in Ida-Virumaa in 2011.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-72094454309463592612007-03-05T14:49:00.000+02:002007-03-05T14:49:00.000+02:00Receiving around 5 % in the early days of the Germ...Receiving around 5 % in the early days of the German 'DIE GRÜNEN' was like a shock in a running three party system. But with 6 parties scoring more than this in Estonia it has a lesser meaning, I guess.Jens-Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18304784095687896639noreply@blogger.com