tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post4693007273987319992..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: Let the Spinning BeginGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger278125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-79117453053571461642007-09-23T18:04:00.000+02:002007-09-23T18:04:00.000+02:00crime scene cleanupauto refinanceplumbing codecrim...<A HREF="http://crimes-scene.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">crime scene cleanup</A><BR/><A HREF="http://refinance.fws1.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">auto refinance</A><BR/><A HREF="http://plumbing.fws1.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">plumbing code</A><BR/><A HREF="http://crimes-mob.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">crime mob</A><BR/><A HREF="http://coach-purse.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">coach purse</A><BR/><A HREF="http://story-true.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">primeval story true</A><BR/><A HREF="http://cadillac-deville.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">cadillac deville</A><BR/><A HREF="http://ameriquest-mortgage.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">ameriquest mortgage</A><BR/><A HREF="http://museum.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">oakland museum</A><BR/><A HREF="http://heater-tankless-water.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">heater tahkless water</A><BR/><A HREF="http://fabricators-metal.awardspace.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">fabricators metal</A><BR/><A HREF="http://indoor-park-water.fws1.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">indoor park water</A><BR/><A HREF="http://drilling-water-well.fws1.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">drilling water well</A><BR/><A HREF="http://alchemist-full-metal.fws1.com/sitemap.html" REL="nofollow">alchemist full metal</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-46768101153988724872007-09-04T22:10:00.000+03:002007-09-04T22:10:00.000+03:00Russia has bad sides and good sides like any other...Russia has bad sides and good sides like any other state we know.<BR/><BR/>Itay<BR/><A HREF="http://www.b4playing.com" REL="nofollow">Poker Tournaments</A><BR/><A HREF="http://affiliates.b4playing.com" REL="nofollow">Casino Affiliate Programs</A>Itay Paz & Udi Netzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03214203999798401655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78672699405412051622007-08-28T11:00:00.000+03:002007-08-28T11:00:00.000+03:00I'm glad if the Russian embassy will get the hell ...I'm glad if the Russian embassy will get the hell out of here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-62922314956073651242007-05-08T01:09:00.000+03:002007-05-08T01:09:00.000+03:00Giustino,Sorry for injecting such contrarian nonse...Giustino,<BR/><BR/>Sorry for injecting such contrarian nonsense into your blog.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work!<BR/><BR/>JeremiaszJeremiasz Koniecpolskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659209064038908506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-10746733623570811752007-05-08T00:33:00.000+03:002007-05-08T00:33:00.000+03:00and if a civilization that bred some of the bright...and if a civilization that bred some of the brightest minds and scientists in history, with finest literature and art was hardly a cuccess...<BR/>i feel sorry for your useless civilization then that gave nearly nothing to the world.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-67192702022692518602007-05-08T00:31:00.000+03:002007-05-08T00:31:00.000+03:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-27235521186565569902007-05-08T00:21:00.000+03:002007-05-08T00:21:00.000+03:00Your civilization, if that name even applies to th...<I>Your civilization, if that name even applies to the barbarism so rampant over there, was hardly a success. </I>.....<BR/><BR/><I> It seems as though your loss of empire has left you completely marginalized and pouting on the sidelines, in a huff because no one is listening.</I><BR/><BR/>after firing such bollocks, which are insulting to any person whether its russian or whoever you say my attitude towards you was uncalled-for??<BR/><BR/><I>Its economy is totally pathetic, and the only reason anyone gives a crap about it, is because of its nukes and its energy stranglehold on Europe. Note, both of these are essentially destructive contributions to the world. </I><BR/><BR/>what a bunch of nonsense. learn your stuff first, which i know is hard with your level of education over there. but make an effort.<BR/><BR/>would you even know where's Estonia if it werent your ancestors in finland? i doubt that.<BR/><BR/>i would rather talk to adequate and intelligent estonians here. i regret already that i replied to such retarded and provocative comment of yours.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-66663003422906254132007-05-07T23:59:00.000+03:002007-05-07T23:59:00.000+03:00"I am sure there are plenty of good Russians in Es...<I>"I am sure there are plenty of good Russians in Estonia, but your indignant response of course belies the typical Russian reaction to anyone pointing out any flaw in Russian culture at all: incredulity. It is precisely this that disgusts Westerners about this unnecessary, uncalled-for attitude emanating from Russians."</I><BR/><BR/>what a load of bullshit.<BR/><I>uncalled-for attitude</I>???<BR/>insulting people you have never met and calling them "swoloch" is what disgusts me about you, so-called westerner.<BR/>you are the only person in this discussion that called for such attitude.<BR/>none of Estonians here have called for russians to get out of Estonia and none of them ever insulted all russians for what a small minority have done. while you "american" can only bark from over the sea knowing nothing about russians in estonia.<BR/><I>I see that you are flustered by my bombast - apoplectic posts such as yours are always hilarious in their frustration.</I><BR/>dont you think you are hilarious in your judgement of a culture you've never been a part of or never lived mext to? arent you hilarious in judging the whole multimillion nation by the way its officials or former rulers behaved?<BR/>what a typical ignorance for american, brainwashed by their own imperial regime.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-25872279488494603592007-05-07T23:15:00.000+03:002007-05-07T23:15:00.000+03:00Seregap, I parry your flabby semantic thrust by ...Seregap,<BR/> I parry your flabby semantic thrust by pointing out that OBVIOUSLY Russia itself was not in Estonia; geo-politcal boundaries are not beings that do things. The Russian nation, however, has meddled much and egregiously in Estonia, and in that sense of the English usage, Seregap, my lexical choice was not fallacious. <BR/> I see that you are flustered by my bombast - apoplectic posts such as yours are always hilarious in their frustration. And if you really want to try to impugn anyone's character by merely throwing invective their way, I might stoop equally as low and point out your juvenile use of the emoticon.<BR/> And no, I am not Polish, but I support all Poles who tried to resist Soviet occupation and subsequent destruction of their country.<BR/> I am sure there are plenty of good Russians in Estonia, but your indignant response of course belies the typical Russian reaction to anyone pointing out any flaw in Russian culture at all: incredulity. It is precisely this that disgusts Westerners about this unnecessary, uncalled-for attitude emanating from Russians. It seems as though your loss of empire has left you completely marginalized and pouting on the sidelines, in a huff because no one is listening. For chrissakes, Russia was only let into the G7 as a placatory move. Its economy is totally pathetic, and the only reason anyone gives a crap about it, is because of its nukes and its energy stranglehold on Europe. Note, both of these are essentially destructive contributions to the world. <BR/> Russia is meaningless, and if you are so pro-Estonia, then clearly you see the Russian community's interest in integration, for there's a better future in Estonia than anywhere else in that failing, rotten hulk of an Empire to your east.<BR/><BR/>JeremiaszJeremiasz Koniecpolskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659209064038908506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-40235307976409429492007-05-03T23:29:00.001+03:002007-05-03T23:29:00.001+03:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07273478513492336119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-68339885595199700152007-05-03T23:29:00.000+03:002007-05-03T23:29:00.000+03:00With their distorted view of history, the Estonian...With their distorted view of history, the Estonians are constant problem mongers for the rest of the EU.They are not alone in this, this behaviour is gaining ground in E. Europe. <BR/>The classical view is that they escaped from a collapsing Soviet bloc after 50+ years of slavery, & became good Europeans.<BR/>The reality is,they don't respect the EU laws,don't respect cultural diversity & are stupid enough to believe we welcome linguistic & want cultural monopolies like the cosy clique in power in Tallinn.<BR/>In fact the truth is;- Roosevelt and Churchill ABANDONED you in 1945 and this was a political choice.<BR/>As many Balts became ruthless killers 1941-3 then revisionist forever afterwards, it's not a nice spectacle to see them attempting in their silly ways to antagonise the useful but totally devalued minorities speaking russian in their countries.<BR/>The result will be much GREATER tension,-they have done all they possibly can to increase it. Then severe loss of business with the new Russia.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07273478513492336119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-37888648097219088852007-05-03T16:05:00.000+03:002007-05-03T16:05:00.000+03:00Seregap,After this situation calms down, we are go...Seregap,<BR/><BR/>After this situation calms down, we are going to have some loooong discussions about integration here.<BR/><BR/>I agree that it's unfair for old people to have to take a language test to vote. <BR/><BR/>But think about this. If Estonia had given everyone citizenship in 1992, and Russia came in with its media machine and said "vote for our stooge" the stooge probably would have won and Estonia would not be where it is today.<BR/><BR/>I mean there are kids calling the Estonian authorities "fascists" -- where do they learn this anachronistic term? <BR/><BR/>Ansip may be an opinionated prick, for lack of a better word, but he still won the most votes and every thing he did was legal. Therefore he isn't a fascist.<BR/><BR/>And nobody will ever take these clowns -- like Klenski, like Zarenkov -- seriously if they continue to use this 1950s Stalinist speech.<BR/><BR/>And the thing is that there is no power base on the Russian-speaking side. There are business leaders and some journalists too, but they never say anything. They might just grumble and wonder why the state hasn't done everything perfect yet.<BR/><BR/>Other minorities in other situations have had to organize and lobby hard for greater opportunity. But as far as I can see, the most organized anyone gets is slowing down traffic and honking their horns.<BR/><BR/>What gives?Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-54379197068548154322007-05-03T12:35:00.000+03:002007-05-03T12:35:00.000+03:00And noone has treated you badly in Estonia. It jus...<I>And noone has treated you badly in Estonia. It just seemed to you that this was so</I><BR/><BR/>it can turn into a neverending argument.<BR/><BR/>but old pleople sacked for not passing the kesktase test, whereas they had been working sometimes in almost all-russian environment and had never ever had problems with doing their job. it one of examples. dont you think its too late for some of them to learn estonian?<BR/><BR/>and if you mentioned i said "on some occasions". i dont say we are treated badly all the time.<BR/>but you know some minor cases here and there irritate people and make them feel like that in the end.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-85627519096235546332007-05-03T12:21:00.000+03:002007-05-03T12:21:00.000+03:00the person calling me "my dear Russian swoloczy" a...the person calling me <I>"my dear Russian swoloczy"</I> and calling for innocent people to get out of the place they were born in, is a moron to meAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78946312808882664332007-05-03T03:13:00.000+03:002007-05-03T03:13:00.000+03:00And Jeremiasz is not a moron, he is absolutely rig...And Jeremiasz is not a moron, he is absolutely right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-20107177603867221382007-05-03T03:12:00.000+03:002007-05-03T03:12:00.000+03:00And noone has treated you badly in Estonia. It jus...And noone has treated you badly in Estonia. It just seemed to you that this was so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-1936855118238027422007-05-03T03:11:00.000+03:002007-05-03T03:11:00.000+03:00are you sure you are not polish? :))and you seem t...<I>are you sure you are not polish? :))<BR/>and you seem to not know there in America or wherever you are that there's no Russia in Estonia. So your call for Russia to get out of here is utter nonsense. And most of Estonian russians were born in Estonia and own blue passports and have nothing to do with gulags, barbarism and other bollocks you mentioned.<BR/>and more than that most russians here dont give a damn shit about modern Russia, as Estonia is their HOME, but they are still treated as "aliens" and occupators on some occasions. thats what raises tensions and makes things like that happen.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Sergei,<BR/><BR/>I think Jeremiasz is quite right in that Russia was here. But we don't blame you. It is a mistake to blame the people for the barbarity of a regime. Except the people who are at the root of the regime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-6189150950546843362007-05-03T02:05:00.000+03:002007-05-03T02:05:00.000+03:00The rest, my dear Russian swoloczy, is sheer and u...<I>The rest, my dear Russian swoloczy, is sheer and utter barbarism. You should clear out of Estonia and Latvia immediately and offer a formal apology to the Baltics for the crimes you've committed there. </I><BR/>thats sooo retarded. your stupidity makes me laugh :)<BR/>We, russians, living here now, havent committed any crimes here, and have been working hard for our families and estonian economy. We have nothing to do with Stalin and the rest, so get over it, moron.<BR/>except for those maradeurs, who are criminals and dont have nationality, as there were both russians and estonians.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-66016693928578298342007-05-03T01:46:00.000+03:002007-05-03T01:46:00.000+03:00are you sure you are not polish? :))and you seem t...are you sure you are not polish? :))<BR/>and you seem to not know there in America or wherever you are that there's no Russia in Estonia. So your call for Russia to get out of here is utter nonsense. And most of Estonian russians were born in Estonia and own blue passports and have nothing to do with gulags, barbarism and other bollocks you mentioned.<BR/>and more than that most russians here dont give a damn shit about modern Russia, as Estonia is their HOME, but they are still treated as "aliens" and occupators on some occasions. thats what raises tensions and makes things like that happen.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-57013865683505447962007-05-02T22:11:00.000+03:002007-05-02T22:11:00.000+03:00This polemic has clearly reached gargantuan propor...This polemic has clearly reached gargantuan proportions, so I will not weigh in on the minutiæ at hand. But I would, as an American of Finnish decent, and more specifically Karelian decent, I support every move Estonia makes to disengage itself from the Russian sphere of influence. Russians invaded my ancestral homeland, and what used to be a pristine woodland has now, under Russian governance, been turned into an industrial wasteland. Bravo, Russia.<BR/><BR/>As a Westerner and someone who values civilized behavior, I cannot but loathe the arrogance of Russia. Remember, Russia, you lost! Why? Because all you exported was Gulag and authoritarianism. Your civilization, if that name even applies to the barbarism so rampant over there, was hardly a success. <BR/><BR/>I am no supporter of American imperialism, but at least we helped Europe after WWII, while you turned it into a toilet.<BR/><BR/>Stalinist architecture is about the only good thing that came out of it. Russian painters are the best painters in the world right now, the Russian novel is unsurpassed as a literary art form, and Andrei Tarkovsky is a genius. But that's all you have to offer. The rest, my dear Russian swoloczy, is sheer and utter barbarism. You should clear out of Estonia and Latvia immediately and offer a formal apology to the Baltics for the crimes you've committed there.Jeremiasz Koniecpolskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659209064038908506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-13371842081219011222007-05-02T00:15:00.000+03:002007-05-02T00:15:00.000+03:00The ironic thing about the graves is, that there i...The ironic thing about the graves is, that there is no real understanding of who is buried there. For years the story has been that the graves are the final resting place of drunken Russian looters, shot by the Russian army in the Tallinn Viinavabrik.Heartsickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06666538975355534856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-31186300683965800792007-04-30T20:53:00.000+03:002007-04-30T20:53:00.000+03:00It's presumable that the riots could have been avo...It's presumable that the riots could have been avoided if the police had stopped the crowd earlier before it started to loot. The questions that we have no answer to is whether police really wanted to stop them or not. I personally think think that the police didn't expect this to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-63494176906486806412007-04-30T18:18:00.000+03:002007-04-30T18:18:00.000+03:00we'll probably never know now if hes got it or not...<I>we'll probably never know now if hes got it or not.<BR/><BR/>i just see some reasonable pros and cons in his oppinion, though i know nothing about who the guy is.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>He's a well-known and previously well-respected sociologist.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying everything he writes is wrong - it's just that he looks at things from the wrong angle and consequently ends up writing absolute drivel.<BR/><BR/>And yes, it is already clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-12338168660367123162007-04-30T18:12:00.000+03:002007-04-30T18:12:00.000+03:00However, I think on this occasion he just doesn't ...<I>However, I think on this occasion he just doesn't get it!<BR/></I><BR/>we'll probably never know now if hes got it or not.<BR/><BR/>i just see some reasonable pros and cons in his oppinion, though i know nothing about who the guy is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749594391970769835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-91036046294896001962007-04-30T18:01:00.000+03:002007-04-30T18:01:00.000+03:00Sergei,I've always had a lot of respect for Juhan ...Sergei,<BR/><BR/>I've always had a lot of respect for Juhan Kivirähk.<BR/><BR/>However, I think on this occasion he just doesn't get it!<BR/><BR/>Which, unfortunately, will cost him his career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com