tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post4559441779424363999..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: täis kuuGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78090480786996964572010-09-09T21:39:03.011+02:002010-09-09T21:39:03.011+02:00Someone must have a real dislike for Jon Stewart h...Someone must have a real dislike for Jon Stewart here. I've been trying to help out a fellow Stew Beef fan for two times now with helpful information.<br /><br />First I thought I just imagined it. But now I personally saw it happening in real time.<br /><br />What gives? Why are my comments deleted? I fail to see the reasoning behind it. It's not like I'm providing pornographic links.<br /><br />Jesus.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186977204918927112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-7465288443133788302010-09-02T10:52:22.660+02:002010-09-02T10:52:22.660+02:00Wow, I looked throught those links and I did not l...Wow, I looked throught those links and I did not laugh. I often get the same feeling on youtube where there are videos with tons of views and I just dont get it. It does make me feel that Americans are a very happy people if it takes that little to make them laugh. But that's just my sentiment there. Being a 20-something Estonian, I mostly relate to all the British humour that ETV used to air.Rein Batuuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04179072422630243080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78845583552499557512010-08-31T23:42:27.113+02:002010-08-31T23:42:27.113+02:00Justin said:
Americans embrace their inner stupid...Justin said:<br /><br />Americans embrace their inner stupid, Europeans are terrified ...<br /><br />*perfect analogueMartasmimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00904404170845733669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-36609236643035734882010-08-31T14:47:59.592+02:002010-08-31T14:47:59.592+02:00That is true, when an estonian encounters a person...That is true, when an estonian encounters a person who is making fun of himself or herself, he is likely to be a bit confused. This kind of "clowining" is not considered humour off-stage in most of Eastern Europe, Russia and Asia.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-9372980712590241462010-08-30T23:04:59.798+02:002010-08-30T23:04:59.798+02:00"I have met Estonian Daily Show fans."
..."I have met Estonian Daily Show fans."<br /><br />There's one right here.<br />But has anyone seen it recently on Elion-provided CNN? Not me. It's scheduled to air, but somehow never happens any more.Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-35589066178397020832010-08-29T11:15:24.442+02:002010-08-29T11:15:24.442+02:00" Americans embrace their inner stupid, Europ..." Americans embrace their inner stupid, Europeans are terrified of appearing stupid." <br /><br />Another great and accurate sound bite. Pointed up to perfection by the heckler at last night's comedy open mic in Tartu, who was even terrified of other people appearing stupid.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-26373157134277965832010-08-29T08:13:13.656+02:002010-08-29T08:13:13.656+02:00And aren't Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart and Bi...<i>And aren't Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher all american humor?</i><br /><br />You are correct here. I have met Estonian Daily Show fans.<br /><br /><i>but since estonians are considered to be eastern europeans in those circles and actual modern-day Scandinavia and Germany are quite different from the mental image estonians have in their heads</i><br /><br />Not to start a different argument, but when I say the term I had to ask, how is "Eastern European" any more definitive or meaningful than "Scandinavian" or "German" these days? I get your point, that that is what Estonia is considered to be, but all the things that tie Eastern Europe together (bad haircuts, denim jackets, screwy politics, bad dance music that never goes out of style) pretty much tie all of Europe together. Sometimes, I feel like its Western Europe that is stuck in a time warp.<br /><br /><i>And I also find Teen Wolf funny.</i><br /><br />God bless you.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-82395250848800067182010-08-28T23:17:18.674+02:002010-08-28T23:17:18.674+02:00"A la "American humor is so primitive, n..."A la "American humor is so primitive, not like our european humor, amirite my northern-germanic brothers with whom I want to desperately belong? Cause we europeans are, you know, culture... and stuff. And I would know because we estonians are also northern europe with close cultural ties to Germany. Not like latvians. So, what do you think of me?""<br /><br />LMAO :D:D:DRainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-4024410930004011302010-08-28T21:42:55.467+02:002010-08-28T21:42:55.467+02:00That was awesome.That was awesome.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186977204918927112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-23426019432299024532010-08-28T21:31:13.131+02:002010-08-28T21:31:13.131+02:00A bit of "American" humor making it'...A bit of "American" humor making it's way around fb and my office <br />today..<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg7X5_K7LhEMartasmimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00904404170845733669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-20887015124916230192010-08-28T21:30:10.493+02:002010-08-28T21:30:10.493+02:00"Dr.Horrible - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v..."Dr.Horrible - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM"<br /><br />Wrong link. This one is right - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apEZpYnN_1gJoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186977204918927112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-5726749017061404532010-08-28T21:26:19.437+02:002010-08-28T21:26:19.437+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Martasmimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00904404170845733669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-81112124927411438212010-08-28T20:54:50.806+02:002010-08-28T20:54:50.806+02:00"I don't think Estonians "get" ..."I don't think Estonians "get" American humor."<br /><br />Come again? I think you might be falling into one of those "Eesti on ainult mina ja minu tutvumisringkond" traps.<br /><br />And we all know that Estonians are not that socialising, so their social circles tend to be small. Very small.<br /><br />The thing is that every 20-something these days has been raised up on Hollywood films. 99.9% of our modern enterntainment comes from Hollywood. And there's also computer games culture and internet. And isn't internet humor pretty much the same thing that american humor is?<br /><br />So the question is - if modern youth is raised on american films and tv shows, internet and computer games, haven't they pretty much learned the necessary cultural codes to interpret this american humor?<br /><br />For the record, I find this funny - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM<br /><br />And aren't Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher all american humor? Every self-identifying progressive watches those these days - http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-april-19-2010/these-f--king-guys---goldman-sachs<br /><br />And then there's of course the internet culture and it's creation itself. <br /><br />The Guild - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grCTXGW3sxQ<br />Dr.Horrible - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM<br /><br />And I won't go into the dark secrets of internet like all those motivational pictures and 4chan.<br /><br />It's pretty universal these days. But I guess the immersion within these cultures depends on age. <br /><br />I also imagine that your "estonians" in this case are those late-20, early-30-something estonians that talk about being northern or almost germany all the time, but since estonians are considered to be eastern europeans in those circles and actual modern-day Scandinavia and Germany are quite different from the mental image estonians have in their heads, then estonians have no other way to build up their europanity but by following the lead and look down on americans. <br /><br />A la "American humor is so primitive, not like our european humor, amirite my northern-germanic brothers with whom I want to desperately belong? Cause we europeans are, you know, culture... and stuff. And I would know because we estonians are also northern europe with close cultural ties to Germany. Not like latvians. So, what do you think of me?"<br /><br />But for those of us who are younger, this doesn't seem to be that much of an issue anymore. We were raised on anglo-internet culture from childhood. And how I'm going to be condescending towards something, if has produced 99.9% of entertainment in my life.<br /><br />And I also find Teen Wolf funny.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186977204918927112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-65695338691621257512010-08-28T14:46:16.029+02:002010-08-28T14:46:16.029+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-28513861957456321542010-08-28T14:45:06.739+02:002010-08-28T14:45:06.739+02:00Resident, not resinent...Resident, not resinent...Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-62240292788755159552010-08-28T14:44:27.016+02:002010-08-28T14:44:27.016+02:00A city best known for its resinent ghost (=Valge D...A city best known for its resinent ghost (=Valge Daam) is metaphysical par excellence. And then there is this fluid, strangely enticing and placid atmosphere. I'm sure Giustino can testify to that.<br />There is hardly anything metaphysical about Tartu in my opinion. This famous "Tartu vaim" is a slightly misguiding term, it should be "Tartu vaimsus" instead, for it is an intellectual phenomenon (university, professors, etc). For that reason Tartu is a very "masculine" city (Emajõgi, the Mother River only confirms the rule), while Haapsalu is decidedly "feminine".Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-36139468100655201862010-08-28T10:38:46.202+02:002010-08-28T10:38:46.202+02:00I don't think Estonians "get" Americ...I don't think Estonians "get" American humor. Go watch that Teen Wolf trailer from 1985. It's hilarious to me, but most Estonians would probably just find it "stupid": that is the key differentiator between Americans and Europeans. Americans embrace their inner stupid, Europeans are terrified of appearing stupid. In Europe, you must appear as if you know everything, even if you know nothing. In America, if you know something, you mustn't let on that you do. In Europe, braininess is embraced to a fault. In America, nerds are outcasts who build financial empires to make up for the emotional and physical beatings they took in grade school.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-71090284193059219852010-08-26T22:57:08.658+02:002010-08-26T22:57:08.658+02:00On the other hand, it could be argued that people ...On the other hand, it could be argued that people from Hiiumaa for example, or the likes, have their own personal laughtracks playing inside their heads all the time. They just don't show it. Just stay smug all the time. Tonque in cheek.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-26780115404484903982010-08-26T22:36:59.967+02:002010-08-26T22:36:59.967+02:00Actually, I rarely laugh while the laughtrack is p...Actually, I rarely laugh while the laughtrack is playing. It feels impolite, just like I'd be interrupting something.Oophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128475059885938485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-65485432084235728032010-08-26T22:25:02.971+02:002010-08-26T22:25:02.971+02:00That's the thing. A person who is not immedia...That's the thing. A person who is not immediately breaking into laughter in the middle of his own joke can be very confusing. How do you know that what it is said is supposed to be a joke, right? <br /><br />I'd be really surprised to learn now that the laughtrack for TV sitcoms was invented in Europe for the benefit of Europeans.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-54765792619141890702010-08-26T22:24:36.292+02:002010-08-26T22:24:36.292+02:00"I didn't think Estonians told jokes?&quo..."I didn't think Estonians told jokes?"<br />No, they don't. They just lure one to misinterprete facts.<br /><br />In thew context of current discussion, it is quite strange actually that The Onion is made in America. They never laugh.<br /><br />(On the other hand, I once translated a news excerpt from The Onion for a "serious" channel. It made quite a scandal. Go figure.)Oophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128475059885938485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-68111956324032864652010-08-26T21:49:26.091+02:002010-08-26T21:49:26.091+02:00Piimapukk ütles...
Americans in general have a ne...Piimapukk ütles... <br />Americans in general have a nervous habit to laugh at their own jokes for fear of being misunderstood whenever they joke. I see this every day at my work. Estonians do not do that. Neither do Irish. Maybe all Europeans, I don't know.<br /><br />* Yeah only those self consumed giddy American's do that.<br />I am Irish & Italian <br />(1st. generation from Italy)and both sides laugh while they tell a joke..<br />I didn't think Estonians told jokes?Martasmimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00904404170845733669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-33818736468732459582010-08-26T14:23:34.724+02:002010-08-26T14:23:34.724+02:00Sharon explained it very well. That's what it...Sharon explained it very well. That's what it is.LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-64225807374484137802010-08-26T04:07:27.698+02:002010-08-26T04:07:27.698+02:00Nicely written.
The way you talk about Hiiu humou...Nicely written.<br /><br />The way you talk about Hiiu humour sounds like the way Americans often talk about Australian humour. It's what we call a "dry" humour, in that you aren't supposed to find it funny, just amusing in an "All right, you got me this time. You'll get yours in due time" kind of way. One long game of "how gullible are you?"<br /><br />It's irony, rather than sarcasm. There's no real mocking, and no real warning (like a tone of voice), just a deep cultural understanding that what is said is not to be taken literally.Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12383128449697415608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78311978291556737012010-08-25T12:11:32.426+02:002010-08-25T12:11:32.426+02:00Yeah, here we'd been led to believe that Tartu...Yeah, here we'd been led to believe that Tartu was the metaphysics capital of Estonia, where the elusive 'Tartu vaim' is there for you to discover while it is actually nowhere to be seen... please elaborate about Haapsalu which I think of as the best kept secret about Estonia so far, if only because it seems like you have to drive forever before you get there.viimneliivlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17658164527165429943noreply@blogger.com