tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post34166555733445115..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: outliersGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-55737914820249418532012-07-30T00:55:20.674+02:002012-07-30T00:55:20.674+02:00But aren't low birthrates a general phenomenon...But aren't low birthrates a general phenomenon all over Europe (and the Western world, where they have been decreasing steadily and will ultimately reach similar numbers)? I mean, is it ''Estonia'', or is it ''Western/Developed Europe''? Of course the population of Estonia is small (by European standards), but if you compare it to, say, a large city in France or Germany, you could see similar numbers, with population reduction. I don't think anybody is selling anybody short, it's simply a demographic phenomenon typical of Western developed countries.Asehpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15848623582152684860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-15233566996627782982012-07-13T22:23:11.441+02:002012-07-13T22:23:11.441+02:00*I meant to say I was going to correct myself here...*I meant to say I was going to correct myself here, but you did it for me. Should've read what I wrote before I posted it. :)prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025489082322562690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-8328963385911796792012-07-13T22:21:51.189+02:002012-07-13T22:21:51.189+02:00@ Meelis
Yep, you are absolutely right. I went to...@ Meelis<br /><br />Yep, you are absolutely right. I went to double check the tables and found I made a mistake. I was going to go back and check but you corrected my mistake for me. Thank you!prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025489082322562690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-88654751395709187532012-07-13T22:14:05.718+02:002012-07-13T22:14:05.718+02:00"Actually, I follow Estonia's demographic..."Actually, I follow Estonia's demographics pretty closely and in the last few years (all years since about 2008) approximately 80% of all births in Estonia have been to ethnic Estonian parents."<br />Not so much. 74,98% in 2010 and 73,64% in 2011.Meelishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06624197502208867055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-84494233842443940632012-07-13T22:12:05.810+02:002012-07-13T22:12:05.810+02:00http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/07/0...http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/07/06/germanys-demographic-crisis-is-now-worse-than-russias/<br /><br />To add to my post, Estonia's birth rate is actually high compared to other EU nations like Germany. I just thought I'd post a link to this article here, figured perhaps some people might be interested to read it.prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025489082322562690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-42956167472108406812012-07-13T22:07:52.553+02:002012-07-13T22:07:52.553+02:00Temesta wrote: "But the priority in Estonia s...Temesta wrote: "But the priority in Estonia seems to be not to increase the population as such, but to increase the amount of ethnic Estonians, which seems to be an impossible task"<br /><br />Actually, I follow Estonia's demographics pretty closely and in the last few years (all years since about 2008) approximately 80% of all births in Estonia have been to ethnic Estonian parents. So even though Estonians are only about 69% of the population according to latest census figures, about 80% of children under age 5 are Estonians. This means that in 50 years or so Estonians should naturally increase from about 69% to 80% of the country's total population.<br /><br />As far as actually increasing Estonia's population at large, Estonia's population WOULD actually be increasing naturally by at least a few thousand a year every since about 2006 or 2007 if abortions dropped by about 50%.<br /><br />In terms of emigration, Estonia doesn't have it nearly as rough as Latvia or Lithuania. For example, about 50 thousand people have emigrated from Estonia in the last decade compared to 200 thousand for Lithuania and nearly that same number for Latvia. By far most Estonians choose to hop next door to Finland whereas Latvia and Lithuania have had to deal with large scale emigration to far flung places (from the Baltics) like Ireland.prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11025489082322562690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-15740334271850985292012-07-12T17:46:55.103+02:002012-07-12T17:46:55.103+02:00That's a good article in light of todays judge...That's a good article in light of todays judgement by state court. Their handing over all the sovereignty, and then what? In 20 years time Russia might want to join, and then those fuckers will have blood on their hands. What is happening, according to Estonian law, is treason.Yet, the highest court in the land has ruled - it's okay, as it's beneficial. But to who?Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-65461153868441845262012-07-12T14:37:33.894+02:002012-07-12T14:37:33.894+02:00Along the lines of this topic ...
http://arvamus....Along the lines of this topic ...<br /><br />http://arvamus.postimees.ee/905330/raul-kalev-motlik-nutulaul-haabuvast-rahvusriigistLPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-54126073217615586592012-07-12T01:30:29.018+02:002012-07-12T01:30:29.018+02:00It's not about the birth rate, it is about imm...It's not about the birth rate, it is about immigration and emigration. The birth rate of Estonia and Iceland doesn't differ so much, and Sweden even has a lower birth rate than Estonia, while it's population increased with 600 000 people in only ten years!<br /> But the priority in Estonia seems to be not to increase the population as such, but to increase the amount of ethnic Estonians, which seems to be an impossible task, if even countries with a very high standard of living like Sweden cannot increase the birth rate.<br /><br />https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.htmlTemestahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614591949410689858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-37629202409639839582012-07-12T01:17:30.855+02:002012-07-12T01:17:30.855+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Temestahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614591949410689858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-23032833395919383142012-07-11T17:53:39.789+02:002012-07-11T17:53:39.789+02:00That's true that a lot of people in their late...That's true that a lot of people in their late 20's, early 30's are having kids. But what you forget is the fact that we had a baby boom in early mid 80's. These young people should be the second most prominent demographic group on the streets of Estonia, pushing prams, after the old age pensioners. But they're simply not there, as a lot have left the country for one reason or the other. That's why some are complaining.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-8946905796304141102012-07-11T15:58:47.835+02:002012-07-11T15:58:47.835+02:00Okay, I think I answered your queries. Sorry, no m...Okay, I think I answered your queries. Sorry, no more nickels or dimes necessary!Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-4748210879505066892012-07-11T15:54:18.003+02:002012-07-11T15:54:18.003+02:00On an unrelated note:
"...before the tunnisa...On an unrelated note:<br /><br />"...before the tunnisaun runs dry"<br /><br />Tunnisaun or tünnisaun? Those are two separate things.Rainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160091690005391250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-29516846864206630412012-07-11T15:45:06.548+02:002012-07-11T15:45:06.548+02:00"I owe it all to my sixth grade teacher ...&q..."I owe it all to my sixth grade teacher ..."? <br /><br />What? <br /><br />How?<br /><br />I thought you'd somehow tie back to this statement in the end. Do I have to put more nickels in to see how the story ends?LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-82502460630681401782012-07-11T15:43:54.751+02:002012-07-11T15:43:54.751+02:00I'm happy to report that my participant famili...I'm happy to report that my participant families averaged at 2.2 children per couple so no problems amongst the bilingual families in Tallinn!Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481927677399385515noreply@blogger.com