tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post2381932903543598829..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: toidupoliitikaGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-48932225113843129212012-10-27T01:44:29.255+02:002012-10-27T01:44:29.255+02:00I mean, does anyone actually has the figures as if...I mean, does anyone actually has the figures as if it would be possible to live off wild game all together? I suppose the prices of meat would skyrocket but then again you dont have to eat meat three times a day anyway, couple of times a week would do. Wouldnt it? Just think about it - we could be the first country in the world to move away from animal farming. Not just "free range" but just "free". I think that would be brilliant.<br /><br />I know that animal welfare in Estonia, and most of Europe, isnt half as bad as it is in the States but I think we should push further. And it shouldnt be as hard to achieve, afterall our culture is all about balance between humans and the natrual world. This is where we could really show the way and lead. Dont you think?Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78490425490171188142012-10-22T23:17:44.593+02:002012-10-22T23:17:44.593+02:00The only reason I have considered going vegeterian...The only reason I have considered going vegeterian is to do with animal farming. The way they treat and literally handle animals there is simply unacceptable. When I lived in Estonia I tried to source at least some of the meat off the professional hunters, to balance the guilt thingy. But all in all I think as a spiecis we do eat other animals, we are predators afterall. And I think you shouldnt fiddle with that. Farming, is something we should reconsider, I think.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-44542874828392509512012-10-22T22:16:18.130+02:002012-10-22T22:16:18.130+02:00So do you think that superficial values, like habi...<i>So do you think that superficial values, like habits and sentimentalism, are more important than primary rights, like not being tortured or killed?</i><br /><br />As a mysterian, my final response is, I don't know. But my kneejerk suspicion/rejection of all ideologies and disciplines, including the tenets of veganism, would probably incline me to an omnivorous diet. <br /><br />I just don't see the deep meaning in consumption that others do. I'm not even certain that, say, accepting smoked fish from a friend makes me a "murderer/killer," though most people seem to buy this idea that by chewing on something and passing it out the other side, you are doing something extremely profound. <br /><br />But what if you didn't know what it was? Is it a case of involuntary slaughter? Beef is murder, abortion is not? Swat a fly, break a cardinal rule? Oh the dilemmas and quandaries. We could go on forever, and we will.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-32116812014046842652012-10-22T17:43:37.634+02:002012-10-22T17:43:37.634+02:00Hi!
I just want to say that you have a nice blog h...Hi!<br />I just want to say that you have a nice blog here!<br />Cheers/<br />SeñorH, Sweden<br />www.metrobloggen.se/60<br />Señor Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16084854602790057009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-80400055177420911892012-10-22T16:11:53.758+02:002012-10-22T16:11:53.758+02:00Good point. Too much time in my hands, as if ... ...Good point. Too much time in my hands, as if ... <br /><br />I should go out and exercise instead. <br /><br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-89475687877855162072012-10-22T13:55:56.804+02:002012-10-22T13:55:56.804+02:00LPR, what you chatting about? Is it about how yell...LPR, what you chatting about? Is it about how yellow Estonian media has turned in recent years? An article about rude busdriver? Do you really care, and if yes I cant help you much. I would recommend to vote with your wallet again.Take a different bus company, or taxi or whatever.<br /><br />I really do not understand what are you trying to achieve by trolling this blog by posting silly little articles about petty criminals and how someone allegedly stared at someone or was being rude. The level of journalism in this country is beyond Daily Mail or The Sun. Whats next? How dogs in Estonia bark louder than in middle class America?Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-47474487273411691032012-10-22T03:24:13.677+02:002012-10-22T03:24:13.677+02:00So do you think that superficial values, like habi...So do you think that superficial values, like habits and sentimentalism, are more important than primary rights, like not being tortured or killed?nexthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919972111018217981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-57566290456495273962012-10-19T15:07:37.168+02:002012-10-19T15:07:37.168+02:00Marko,
Here ... I did not write this. Other peop...Marko,<br /><br />Here ... I did not write this. Other people write this. I just witness.<br /><br />Witness this:<br /><br />http://www.juhtimine.ee/1011804/eestisse-tagasi-kolinu-kohe-lennujaamas-sain-soimata<br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-26294650947913674622012-10-18T10:47:23.183+02:002012-10-18T10:47:23.183+02:00I'm a split-personality shopper myself, buying...I'm a split-personality shopper myself, buying products that contain zero something-or-other at the same time I'll buy something that's practically <b>entirely</b> the thing that's missing from the first product.<br /><br />I think we're too dependent on some things, as a society (or several societies). It always amazes me what we put in our food, once you start looking at it. Why do we need beef products in rum balls, or wheat products in potato chips?<br /><br />I'm really fascinated, though, by the things we apparently can't live without. Like dairy, which we feel we must have in some form or another. We can't live without milk or cheese, so we make it from something else if we avoid the lactated stuff. <br /><br />Would soy milk even exist if not for someone trying to find a milk substitute to put on their breakfast cereal or have in their coffee?* Would we be making bread out of strange mixtures of rice and tapioca if we weren't desperate for bread but trying to avoid the gluten?<br /><br />Could we successfully live in the same world as everyone else while simply not consuming milk at all (regardless of what it was made from)?<br /><br /><br />*Actually, I think some sort of squeezed soy product probably would exist, but I'm not sure we'd call it milk.Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12383128449697415608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-19596950766195982172012-10-17T18:12:44.605+02:002012-10-17T18:12:44.605+02:00There's an interesting video lecture on the ev...There's an interesting video lecture on the evils of milk on youtube called "Udderly Amazing".<br /><br />Check it out.<br /><br /><br />After seeing it, I even try to add less cream to my coffee, never mind drinking milk.<br /><br />Same for sugar. <br /><br /><br />There is a good lecture on sugar as well ... A must see:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM <br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-78026193791197371032012-10-17T18:11:00.476+02:002012-10-17T18:11:00.476+02:00What is this business about "keskpäev" a...What is this business about "keskpäev" after all the comments? What the hell happens at noon? A duel?Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-9518568604889666682012-10-17T17:49:11.553+02:002012-10-17T17:49:11.553+02:00Giustino, I think activism forced one produc-ER in...Giustino, I think activism forced one produc-ER into making e-vaba cured meats. But your info may be more up to date. <br /><br />Unknown, there are problems with soy, but it's not really the phytoestrogens, which are insignificant (just like no one tells women not to eat blueberries, which contain phytoandrogens; the only mustache you get from eating blueberries is a purple one). I don't think a body that's used to legumes is going to fart that much, either. But overall, you make some good sense. Good piece, good comments.<br /><br />Syntax, I read in an Estonian book that the body can live on põldoad for 6 months without developing deficiencies. Similar claims have been made for potatoes (with the peels on) + milk. Say it ain't so about the Hesburger falafel. That was actually very tasty. <br /><br />Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-29328842323108405632012-10-16T22:41:20.327+02:002012-10-16T22:41:20.327+02:00Nice piece, Giustino.
Soy and rice being easier ...Nice piece, Giustino. <br /><br />Soy and rice being easier on the body? Ahem. Soy is full of (natural) estrogens, not a substance that you would recommend to a man or boy (or even a girl or woman, to think of it). It also makes you pass a lot of gas. Rice is full of empty calories and predisposes people to diabetes. It's also notorious for its lack of fiber (indeed, you could eat some of the stuff to stop a loose stomach). It reminds me that natural does not mean safe.<br />I totally agree though, animal products are necessary. Yes, let's eat healthy, balanced, and with lots of all of the different food groups. But let's see, if you leave one group out, say animal products, you end up with something like the diet in Papua-New Guinea - severe protein deficiency, and not only protein but iron, zinc, other minerals, vitamin B, D, etc., etc. There's even a theory that tries to explain cannibalism due to the lack of adequate sources of animal products. Then again, the Inuit have lived for a long time eating more or less only meat and some fish, and maybe a bit of puffin. No veg or fruit there.<br />I support discouraging the excessive use of additives in processed foods, though many E- numbers are 'safe' stuff, like lemon juice. Many of the colouring substances though, give me shivers, with warnings of the type "can cause concentration and behaviour problems". Of course, trans fats should not be added to foodstuff, but not because you can find a bit of them in natural food such as butter, but because they are used to make products cheaper to manufacture and have a longer shell life. i.e., more profits to the manufacturers (we should also add the importers of some of those goods into Estonia). Why, it would be great if they would make their biscuits, cookies, sweets, and cakes with butter, but no, they use the cheapest (and unhealthiest) thing they can find.<br />Same thing with corn syrup. Yes, it has a bit more fructose, but let's remember that sugar is half fructose too, while corn syrup is 55% fructose. So the problem is not about corn syrup itself. The problem is using too many sweeteners overall, and in too many foodstuffs, be it as corn syrup or as sugar, or 'evaporated cane juice', as a producer wrote on a product label.<br />Actually, fats are very important to children's diets, since they are building cells and the nervous system, that both require fat as a constituent part.<br />Pick your poison, as they say. I'll enjoy my chorizo any day and everyday, if necessary. Verivorst is delicious, and eggs are good for you. Fruit and veg taste and are good too (except cabbage, the most overused and foul ingredient in Estonian food, together with 'white sauce' that is only made out of flour and water).<br />Even lard is sweet if eaten in a tamal. <br />OK, enough, I'm hankering after some good food.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10218023456805774255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-74613034889249194982012-10-16T20:23:11.741+02:002012-10-16T20:23:11.741+02:00It's hard to eat any processed foods in Estoni...It's hard to eat any processed foods in Estonia let alone vegan ones. And even the cost of anything other than carrots, potatoes and onions is high. How do people survive?<br /><br />I wrote about this issues: http://tinyurl.com/cqab6xk<br /><br />I really don't think it's fair that the same items cost 2 or 3 times less in Finland and Ireland factoring in wage difference and a lot of the time less in nominal prices too!Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481927677399385515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-67935817881479110092012-10-16T17:16:40.786+02:002012-10-16T17:16:40.786+02:00Maybe the reason is that you cannot make the same ...Maybe the reason is that you cannot make the same statement in Estonian. <br /><br />"Niku piima" sign would be worse. Imagine all these perplexed Estonian parents having to explain this to their kids on the back seat going "mis on niku?"...<br /><br />On the other hand, kids seeing the f-word next to piim think that it is harmless and cosy.<br /><br />"Who's the effin idiot posting a sign like that?) LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.com