tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post1349856396729911001..comments2023-11-05T09:55:13.077+02:00Comments on Itching for Eestimaa: purgedGiustinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-9805318463360325642012-12-10T06:37:05.978+02:002012-12-10T06:37:05.978+02:00Is "crazyness" hereditary?
If a fathe...Is "crazyness" hereditary? <br /><br />If a father rejects the covenant of God and takes his family into sin and rejects God, the children will suffer the consequences, often for several generations. <br /><br />The contemporary Estonian society suffers massively from this syndrome. <br /><br />There is simply too much blood on people's hands and very few have asked for any kind of forgiveness. <br /><br />The best we can hope for is a fish-eye look and a angry mumble: "jah, ma vabandan" ...<br /><br />A cruel mockery instead of a healing that this sick nation really needs. <br /><br />Hereditary? Sure is if you don't reject it yourself and cast it off to be free.<br /><br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-38908180766253619852012-12-09T17:33:37.311+02:002012-12-09T17:33:37.311+02:00I think the book has some good points... like expl...I think the book has some good points... like explaining why most of the old people who I saw as a kid were kind of crazy. I learned not long ago that our neighbor had been one of the deporters. He'd later get drunk on paydays and turn into a roaring monster behind the wall (kept me away from alcohol for a long time). And my grandma wasn't happy when we played with children of "wrong parents" or spent time outside home, since she thought there was a rapist behind every corner, etc. etc. I wonder how much of the craziness is hereditary? Timbuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829033572898946628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-22635262043891677892012-12-09T15:28:44.175+02:002012-12-09T15:28:44.175+02:00I didn't know that the Estonian public has a p...I didn't know that the Estonian public has a problem with the book, it seems that Oksanen is very popular here. I only read about some intellectuals criticizing the book. Jaan Kaplinski for example.<br /><br />http://jaankaplinski.blogspot.com/2010/08/sofi-oksanen-and-stalin-award.htmlTemestahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614591949410689858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-82510852777537108112012-12-09T12:59:20.322+02:002012-12-09T12:59:20.322+02:00What some of you people forget is that it's fi...What some of you people forget is that it's fiction. Not to say that any of it did not happen, but its gonna sit on the shelf between Fifty Shades of Gray and Casual Vacancy.<br /><br />The 'Estonia reference' to it is absolutely irrelevant. These thing happened all over the place at that time. But I suppose how you deal with it, is different. Is this our revival of the era in form of books and films? (Like the Germany's 1990's with Schindler's List topping charts, etc.) Nope, I don't think so.Markohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501324932136870126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-51044545228790728532012-12-09T07:42:18.226+02:002012-12-09T07:42:18.226+02:00Well, Oksanen obviously is not very likeable, but ...Well, Oksanen obviously is not very likeable, but she is a genuinely good writer. I found "Purge" quite dark, but I don't think her purpose was to be a comprehensive historian of the recent Estonian past, but to highlight some strains, rather universally (and no doubt also, in some sense, one-sidedly). <br /><br />Among our popular intellectuals she is very unique in stressing also Stalinist crimes - her publishing firm recently reissued Archipelago Gulag in Finland (it's been selling crazily, so that's against her, but anyway).<br /><br />These things seem bit embarrasing for Estonians, so post-Sovjet, so last season, and for example Guistino would prefer to forget all these unpleasantries and focus in the high-tech future, but I don't know how one could get rid of such events, such traumas without confronting them first, and confronting them very squarely.<br /><br />It seems also a popular reaction to claim that Oksanen is exploiting Estonian history for Western audiences and private gain. This seems totally false to me. She is a serious and talented writer, and obviously her personal background, personal history has been psychologically very important for her. (Her main crime probably is her success - not easily forgiven in our Lutheran-janteish Balto-Scandian lands...)<br /><br />stockholm slenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16909107517362691387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-10666074464805914032012-12-08T20:07:27.947+02:002012-12-08T20:07:27.947+02:00Is she more serious than the Lithuanian American R...Is she more serious than the Lithuanian American Ruta Sepetys and her Between Shades of Grey? I suddenly thought about comparing them as some Baltic "things" being sold to make people of the rest of the EU and the USA know slightly more about the Baltic countries.Beahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996480170809238457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-9740594781184421282012-12-08T19:10:46.776+02:002012-12-08T19:10:46.776+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09548361292479574572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-76016432749035699952012-12-08T19:10:23.421+02:002012-12-08T19:10:23.421+02:00From an outsider's standpoint (being Singapore...From an outsider's standpoint (being Singaporean mind you), I found Purge a book that makes Estonia sound like the not-up-to-Western-European standards that people tend to see Estonia as. The book is slow - very historical-based and very unrelatable. It's just like Taken filmed in a historical era.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09548361292479574572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-19475995842375716212012-12-06T18:19:50.764+02:002012-12-06T18:19:50.764+02:00I have not read her, but I will. Kross, too. New Y...I have not read her, but I will. Kross, too. New Year's resolution. Her personality is certainly over the top. I tend to like my writers not to analyze their own symbolism and motivations, and prefer them to be recluses and ciphers, but that of course does not detract from her work. Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-89232737725822367072012-12-06T18:18:05.343+02:002012-12-06T18:18:05.343+02:00Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.Kristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01394211030848077681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-45855695627819381602012-12-06T16:12:38.827+02:002012-12-06T16:12:38.827+02:00I know. It is hard for me to relate to a jewish l...I know. It is hard for me to relate to a jewish looking estonian woman who is a finn.<br /><br />I have not met her, maybe she'd swipe me off my feet then ...<br /><br />Thank you for the book review. <br /><br />Scratching it off my to do list right away ... scrolling way-way down ... oops, it is not even here!<br /><br />So we are all good. :-) <br />LPRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09397977705898254598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-21662516681100854002012-12-06T15:19:32.859+02:002012-12-06T15:19:32.859+02:00I agree with you on the "Purge". Despite...I agree with you on the "Purge". Despite being an Estonian woman, I could not relate myself to the characters. They were too naive for my taste and cynical understanding.akadeemikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05651615467774885461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-28061269509813274122012-12-06T13:52:58.370+02:002012-12-06T13:52:58.370+02:00Yep, this is an autobiographic book and we have it...Yep, this is an autobiographic book and we have it, take a look.Eppppphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15198668905167508640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-15230460772620605122012-12-06T12:33:11.960+02:002012-12-06T12:33:11.960+02:00No English translation yet. We do have Stalini leh...No English translation yet. We do have <i>Stalini lehmad</i> in the home office. I'll give it a look. And thanks!Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13406351.post-63622748425057932632012-12-06T11:59:55.695+02:002012-12-06T11:59:55.695+02:00" I would love to read a book about a charact..." I would love to read a book about a character like Oksanen. Maybe she could write one. "<br />- well, she has. "Stalin's Cows".sofiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08867216317257288391noreply@blogger.com